EVE General Discussion

I love how high end moon goo owners are trying to paint a picture of pain and suffering hours on end running ISK printing machines. It takes just a few minutes to cyno in, add fuel, remove goo, cyno right the hell out. You will spend maybe, MAYBE five minutes tops on each tower fueling and getting the goo. And this is only once every few weeks. Then you take a load (via neutral alt of course) to Jita to unload it all and make billions upon billions of ISK. I will not get into a debate on what was involved in acquiring each moon due to the many ways.

But in no way make it sound like you are slaving day and night maintaining them, because that is just a flat out ******* lie.

Spicket into the moon like it was syrup. Well your not too far off on that. I have to agree thou it is pretty hands off making isk. I did run multiple POS in null sec with moon harvesters in them. visit the POS to grab the moon goo every 2 maybe 3 days from like 10 towers(been awhile think i had alot up doing this) then run it back to the reaction tower. By the end of a month i have a 2 sometimes 3 JF loads to run to Jita set it up on market and make something like 5bill easily a month.

Was there any risk involved? I felt like there was none. Jump The rorqual into the system with harvesters gather it all up check POS fuel move onto the next. In the 1 year of doing this never once got targets or got the towers burned. funny how that Moon Goo is truely a passive income maker with a little work.

I am all for the moon ring mining type thing making it worth while to do. It would truely bring the risk more into perspective then what it is now. Many of the indy type folks talked about this a few times and felt somethign needed to be done and we whole heartily agree.

Go for it it should be entertaining to watch the outcome

I love how you make it sound like any large alliance just has to plop a tower down, and rake in the ISK. How many towers, divided by the number of people trusted to take out the goo? I'm fairly certain that Goons have a lot of towers, and not just for harvesting goo. You also have jump bridge towers, (Don't forget that you have to also put fuel into the bridge too.) CSAA towers, reaction towers, cyno beacon, cyno jammer, and staging towers. I would conservatively put Goons as having around 300-400 towers. Divide that by the number of people trusted with tower roles, and your little five minutes per tower, (that doesn't take into account moving a cyno ship into place by the way,) seems more like a second job, than a lazy way to rake in the ISK.

and I thought the ring mining thing did not make it into the winter expansion and will come no sooner than early 2013...

Serious post: If you want 0.0 to be focused on industry, step one of that would be to make 0.0 manufacturing worth doing in the first pace, which means massively nerfing the ability to manufacture virtually everything anyone could possibly need in the safety of Empire. Lets see an end to 100% refining, removing the massive abundance of highsec manufacturing slots, upping the costs of production lines, etc. Then once that's on the table, we'll talk about tech.

You idiots know tech is in lowsec as well right?

So all this "null null null" is a load of ****.

And yes moon goo is a joke just like the "why don't you go get some if it is so easy"

Tell me when was the last time CFC had tech moons come under attack?

Like never? okay.

mining what, about a super a month per moon aint OP at all.

and even better the current big guys in eve are not from eve but from outside the game so saying... start your own alliance and move up in eve does not work.

CCP needs to make all of eve more dynamic...

Adam, I couldn't of said it better.

The problem with the owners of the sandbox. Is how they allow the bullies to bully. Goons are nothing more than schoolyard punks that want to pick a fight. Controlled by their mighty Mittani who was well incorperated into the CCP with CSM6. CCP controls alot of things. What they want to happen will happen as long as mittani lets them.

As long as there is CCP there will be Goons.

Goons will control anything they want because:

1. CCP can't pull the leash
2. Goons are too powerful disband.
3. CCP won't make the hard decision.
4. Their mentality is bullying.


CCP needs to let the game be the game for those that don't want to play it by GOONS rules. If players want to mine let them mine in peace. CCP drags down the industrialist with the moon goo.

I went on DBRB structure shoots (bark bark bark) to defend/attack tech moons so i am willing to physically fight any mouthbreating publord thinks it was "easy" or anything. :colbert:

Interesting thread.

One interesting thing about it is many of those in here who advocate massive changes (deserved or not) to other areas of the game (chanting "HTFU" and "adapt or die" as they go) seem less inclined to see changes to the largest, heavily unbalanced and advantage giving ISK faucets EvE has.

Another interesting thing, just in case it hasn't been mentioned. Running moon mining operations and the logistics involved is a pain, not a big one but still a pain, but when you consider the profits the outlay in time and materials gain you its nothing. A small price to pay when you consider it allows an alliance among other things to fund a 100% replacement program for literally thousands of pilots, a considerable advantage over any alliance without such an income.

Just saying.

Interesting.

You're talking about hi-sec level 4s?


(The combined income from these dwarfs moon-mining)