EVE General Discussion

Ah frag it! Like we really need FFXI or similar crafting in EVE. It is not Crafting!! It's building and manufacturing. These things happen on assembly lines and use automated systems to do most of the work now; how do you think it is going to look in 20K years? We're going to go back to labour farms?

It's fine the way it is. Science, research, development, manufacturinbg, automation. We're not making a tin sword for fraks sake.

edit: Also, ME and PE research are basically the pilot plugging in some parameters and formulas into a super computer which then calculates how to improve upon build time using the automated systems, (potentially spitting out the equivalent of a modified CNC program), or how to use less material in production by improving on patterns for material cutting, or calculating where material can be reduced in thickness, have cutouts added, etc.. without causing structural integrity problems.

EVEs building and manufacturing leaves a bit to be desired, but honestly, it is much better than any other game.

IMHO the biggest thing hurting EVE right now is people who think the game is only Intermet spaceships, or worse, people who intentionally ignore the rest of the game: exploration, resource discovery, resource exploitation, market research, logistics, strategic planning: all the stuff that leads to having ships on the same grid shooting each other.

Really?

A lack of direction for the game,

For me make it all 0.0 sec, do away with high sec, warp to zero, local, make all station destructible etc , make EVE as it was intended to be.

This would lose subs, how many, who knows

Or split it into 2 worlds/universes Hi and low/0.0 sec, high sec for people who want to play safe, no shooting each other allowed at all, mine to your hearts content or whatever.

This would gain subs , probably a lot, but is against everything EVE stands for.

The Devs i am sure want to do the first option, but realize they would quite possibly be doing their little HTFU song and dance routine outside an Icelandic Job center for coins to feed there family after subs drop.

So here they sit, trying to balance on a knifes edge, doing practically nothing to develop the game, and it is withering, slowly, oh so slowly.

The idea that there is a one, silver bullet that will fix EVE. It's death by a thousand papercuts.

Non-streamlined transition to PvP for new players.

Gladiator arenas with free ships and quests or tutorial could make this game much more fun for new players. Meanwhile many players getting their first (and only) PvP experience from Hulkageddon, can flippers, ninjas, pirates - which is like teaching teens about life by throwing them into street gangs.

Standings.

Local

Self important jerkwads, who loudly proclaim that they know the one thing that will "save EVE".

Gonna have to go with the obvious: Local.

Few times I've done sleeper sites in a WH were pretty tense but also a hell of a lot of fun. Also, it'd make Jita a decent place to raise your children.

When I want to brawl in real life I take a towel and go to nearby gym - there are always some boxing guys. It takes 10 minutes and cost almost nothing. When I want to brawl in player-driven hi-sec economy I have to jump into clone, purchase and equip ship, join RvB, etc. etc. - all of this can take hour(s). PvP in EVE is extremely complicated activity unlike in many other not-so-pvp MMOs where you can join a fight after single mouse click. No wonder some of hi-sec dwellers never shot anyone despite "EVE is all about PvP" myth. This should be changed - PvP-centric game where substantial part of player base never ever participate in PvP - it's non-sense and wasting of great potential. Besides what rookie ships are free and didn't ruin anything + I mean ships should be free to use within arenas only.