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Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#1 - 2012-05-14 16:42:04 UTC
During my travels in low sec, I came across a temperate planet with a very odd resource distribution. Despite being in .3 space, the planet had ZERO bacteria or complex lifeforms. What the planet does have in abundance is a massive amount of carbon (dead organic material) and Autotrophs (fungi who feed on dead material).

I've never seen a temperate planet with such bizarre resources... there has to be a story behind this. Something killed almost all the living things on this world, leaving only the fungi to feast on the dead....


Has anyone else ever come across a planet with a bizarre resource distribution?

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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#2 - 2012-05-14 17:15:01 UTC
A classic one would be the Lavaworlds without Felsic Magma, but otuside that, I can't say I found odd resourceworlds so far.

I do agree with you that the world you found must have some sort of story to tell. Can you tell the location of this bizarre world? Or mail it to me if it's in a place you don't want publicly know. Can see if it's linked to some story or event.

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Niko medes
Freeman Technologies
#3 - 2012-05-14 18:40:56 UTC
I too would love to see if any information could be found on this "dead" planet that you've discovered.

Good find! Smile
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#4 - 2012-05-14 21:02:52 UTC
Looked up about anything I could come up with, from the Lethal Virus project to the Sansha attacks on planets, nothing came up for the world/system that might explain the weird phenomenon.

My personal explanation? Massive impact eliminated almost all life, too little left for the survivers to feed on, save for the autotrophs, who now efast on the countless dead lifeforms.

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Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#5 - 2012-05-15 04:10:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinstar Colton
I can see a massive impact killing off all the complex lifeforms...but ALL the bacteria?! Those things are hard to kill.

The *only* thing I can think of is that the autotrophs produce a powerful antibiotic as part of their biological processes which slowly killed everything on the planet, including the bacteria. Like penicillin only deadly. I'm no biologist, I have no clue if that's possible or what else could wipe out bacteria like that.

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2012-05-15 14:14:21 UTC
...probably it just did not develope...and carbon is not bound to "formal living" things (see Chondrites for reference)

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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#7 - 2012-05-15 16:03:41 UTC
Pinstar Colton wrote:
I can see a massive impact killing off all the complex lifeforms...but ALL the bacteria?! Those things are hard to kill.

The *only* thing I can think of is that the autotrophs produce a powerful antibiotic as part of their biological processes which slowly killed everything on the planet, including the bacteria. Like penicillin only deadly. I'm no biologist, I have no clue if that's possible or what else could wipe out bacteria like that.


Good point you make on the bacteria, it invalidates my assumption. Could either be natural or a bio-engineered lifeform who is capable of doing such thing.

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Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#8 - 2012-05-16 02:20:40 UTC
Excessive UVC radiation from the star and depleted upper atmosphere?

Though the UVC would probably kill off the autotrophs too.

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Korbin Valenroth
Mom's Friendly Industrial Company
#9 - 2012-05-28 00:01:49 UTC
This is worth a study. Do you know any other facts that might give some information about this planet? For example; How eccentric is the orbit? What kind of star does it orbit? What other resources are there? I am a scientist by trade (Eve and RL) so I find this interesting.
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#10 - 2012-05-28 12:06:36 UTC
Korbin Valenroth wrote:
This is worth a study. Do you know any other facts that might give some information about this planet? For example; How eccentric is the orbit? What kind of star does it orbit? What other resources are there? I am a scientist by trade (Eve and RL) so I find this interesting.


Planet: Temperate
Temperature: 300 K
Orbit Radius: 1.006 AU
Eccentricity: 0.012
Mass: 4.8e + 24 kg
Density: 6464.1 q/cm3
Surface Gravity: 10.1 m/s^2
Escape Velocity: 10.7 km/s
Orbit Period: 156 days
Pressure: Very Low
Radius 5,610 km

Resources:
Aqueous Liquids: ~15%
Autotrophs: ~45%
Carbon Compounds: ~67%
Complex Organisms: 0%
Microorganisms: 0%

System's Sun:
Type: K5 (Orange Bright)
Temperature: 4421 K
Spectral Class: K3 V
Luminosity: 0.03
Age: 19,019,000,000
Radius: 200,400 km




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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-05-30 03:03:48 UTC
Pinstar Colton wrote:
During my travels in low sec, I came across a temperate planet with a very odd resource distribution. Despite being in .3 space, the planet had ZERO bacteria or complex lifeforms. What the planet does have in abundance is a massive amount of carbon (dead organic material) and Autotrophs (fungi who feed on dead material).

I've never seen a temperate planet with such bizarre resources... there has to be a story behind this. Something killed almost all the living things on this world, leaving only the fungi to feast on the dead....


Has anyone else ever come across a planet with a bizarre resource distribution?

there is also one or 2 wormhole-space planets that not only ahve NAMES, but have interesting irregular resource distributions.
Bl4ck Ph03n1x
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-05-30 22:41:29 UTC
Pinstar Colton wrote:
I can see a massive impact killing off all the complex lifeforms...but ALL the bacteria?! Those things are hard to kill.

The *only* thing I can think of is that the autotrophs produce a powerful antibiotic as part of their biological processes which slowly killed everything on the planet, including the bacteria. Like penicillin only deadly. I'm no biologist, I have no clue if that's possible or what else could wipe out bacteria like that.


No, natural selection and adaption would have made the remaining bacterias immune to the said antibiotics.

The only thing that can kill 100% of the lifeforms is prolonged exposure to heavy radiations.
My guess is that some cataclysm have killed everything, leaving only a few autotrophs on an empty planet. Maybe they even were brought later, by human interference.

I'm thinking: is this system one of those shattered by the wormholes openings?

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Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#13 - 2012-05-31 00:13:10 UTC
I don't know about being shattered by the wormhole openings, but it is in the same region as the EVE gate (Genesis)

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Horatius Caul
Kitzless
#14 - 2012-05-31 00:36:26 UTC
Hmmm... could be worth investigating. I'm pretty sure what system and what planet it is.

It's possible that it was artificially seeded with algae or lichen or something designed to produce atmospheric gases, with no need for microbiotics. Early-stage terraforming.

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MisterNick
The Sagan Clan
#15 - 2012-05-31 14:05:17 UTC
Fungal life but no bacterial? Suggests at some point recently the fungi evolved to produce antibiotics. Thing is, if it's anything like our biosphere here on Earth, that planet will eventually wind up totally lifeless without bacteria.

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#16 - 2012-06-01 06:25:25 UTC
Pinstar Colton wrote:
Korbin Valenroth wrote:
This is worth a study. Do you know any other facts that might give some information about this planet? For example; How eccentric is the orbit? What kind of star does it orbit? What other resources are there? I am a scientist by trade (Eve and RL) so I find this interesting.


Planet: Temperate
Temperature: 300 K
Orbit Radius: 1.006 AU
Eccentricity: 0.012
Mass: 4.8e + 24 kg
Density: 6464.1 q/cm3
Surface Gravity: 10.1 m/s^2
Escape Velocity: 10.7 km/s
Orbit Period: 156 days
Pressure: Very Low
Radius 5,610 km

Resources:
Aqueous Liquids: ~15%
Autotrophs: ~45%
Carbon Compounds: ~67%
Complex Organisms: 0%
Microorganisms: 0%

System's Sun:
Type: K5 (Orange Bright)
Temperature: 4421 K
Spectral Class: K3 V
Luminosity: 0.03
Age: 19,019,000,000
Radius: 200,400 km






...oh man....you are misleading us with the headline.
read AUTOTROPHS and CARBON COMPOUNDS...does not ring a bell??

This planet is everything else but dead

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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#17 - 2012-06-01 06:28:16 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Pinstar Colton wrote:
During my travels in low sec, I came across a temperate planet with a very odd resource distribution. Despite being in .3 space, the planet had ZERO bacteria or complex lifeforms. What the planet does have in abundance is a massive amount of carbon (dead organic material) and Autotrophs (fungi who feed on dead material).

I've never seen a temperate planet with such bizarre resources... there has to be a story behind this. Something killed almost all the living things on this world, leaving only the fungi to feast on the dead....


Has anyone else ever come across a planet with a bizarre resource distribution?

there is also one or 2 wormhole-space planets that not only ahve NAMES, but have interesting irregular resource distributions.


Can you give a reference...cause that is really interesting

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Vindaloo Dhansak
Los Rastrojos
#18 - 2012-06-11 01:12:36 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Pinstar Colton wrote:
*snip*

there is also one or 2 wormhole-space planets that not only ahve NAMES, but have interesting irregular resource distributions.


Can you give a reference...cause that is really interesting

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/J102834/II
Qvar Dar'Zanar
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-06-11 09:17:20 UTC
HAHA I lol'd.

If somebody doesn't remember, Eyjafjallajokull is the name of the icelandic volcano that screw'd with the european tarde routes for a week or soa year or two ago.
Droidyk
Maniacal Miners INC
The Legends In The Game
#20 - 2012-07-14 12:45:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Droidyk
Did you guys thought about non-carbon based life? There has been studies that prove the life can be born from other elements that has potential to bind molecules that are reactin on the enviroment and can in the way "breed" or replicate.

Edit: But for that, there would be much more alien or somehow different to human extraterrestrial races. In this.. eve kind of lacks the realism here for this point. But there are I think lifeforms very different from the Earth fauna or even flora. Also not saying that there couldnt be galaxy without its own intelligent races and stuff. And we as Human races would come to it and claim it fot ourselfs.
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