EVE General Discussion

I speak for PVE and PVP when I want local removed, more lowsec and 0.0 added, change to gameplay mechanics for mining and building not to mention increase defense around gates and stations in lowsec and more rewards in those systems through incusrions, plexing, missions and better asteroids and a lot more. That also comes with the price of less highsec and less rewards in highsec. What I don't understand is industrialists who do not want to build for any reason other than building, get ISK and never spend it or that enjoy playing and paying for it to be AFK or use a bot.

My changes do not remove a person from the game who wants to only mine, if anything it makes his game better overall.

You then go on to say we are agressive and you like PVP? But you want CCP to protect you while making massive ISK and assume anyone that shoot at other players as being some sort of sociopath.

I told you and let me say it again, without PVP the game is ****, you build ships to be flown, you mine the resources to be used for building. It is all connected with one another and promoting PVP and make EVE less safe does not remove one component from the other, PVP players need industrialists just as much as they need PVP players.

Or are you under the assumption that Goons have no industry at all? You will be hard to find a successful corp or alliance without both type of players, some even do both things on the same character even.

That is EVE, let me know when you find an EVE player that played often for more than a year just "experiencing" the flow of mining and nothing else.

Space is mysterious, vast and amazing not to mention dangerous, take away danger and you guessed it, go play FLOW, this game is not for you and CCP would never make enough money from players like you, EVER!

If you still do not "get it", there i no more point discussing the matter and I will just have to debate it again in a year from now with another one of "you" since you wont be here anymore, like the ones before.

"No you do not and if you have to have protection other than that you can put together yourself then play with others! This is a multiplayer game in an artificial sandbox with emphasis on freedom to PVP anywhere in all forms of gameplay activities. My proposed changed not original would improve that and if you refuse to accept it, EVE IS NOT FOR YOU!"

Their choice is fine all day long, but that choice CANNOT BE to not having to deal with others, in pvp, even if you just want to and in the end only mine ever. It comes with the game, it can't be separated from each other.

Let me explain using this example that follows-

Freedom of speech, it is a right and an important if not the most important part of a democracy. If you agree with that you have to accept every single persons right to say whatever, whenever and however they want to as an absolute. We have to respect that even if their opinions are ****.

What we don't have to do is respect the opinion itself or what was said, and we also have every single right to say whatever we want about it.

-

Perhaps it is not the best example but my point is, you can't love and play EVE the way you want to unless you accept that every one has the right to blow you up to bits. You can hate it but when you call on CCP to enforce your gameplay as an absolute then you have lost your freedom of speech (a tie in to my previous example.)

So if you want to be a miner, then mine, need protection? get better, learn or perhaps team up with others, or find a nice free flash game or even make one with an asteroid, some strip miners and music and save yourself and every one else a headache or 2.

Historically, high sec and 0.0 used to be the one with the largest numbers for most of the patches.
Now during the sactums buff period, high sec numbrs dropped drastically and low sec + null sec numbers swelled drastically.

Null geting higher numbers ofcource and the reason why so many went low sec was cos pirates beneficiated from roaming in 0.0 and conducting contract on 0.0 entities.

The nerf hammer came to sanctums and 0.0 lost a high number of players. A lot of people were outraged by the nerf due to an incredible amount of investment made in a very short time in 0.0 for theses sactums and the nerf was gonna render their isk spent useless and was not gonna be reinbursed! The investments were very expensive with a high pay out after a few months but very soon it got nerfed! The outrage was so high that a lot of people left and others stopped loging in. I belive somewhere around 30%, perhaps even more. As a result, the contracts for pirates dried up and more people began moving into wormholes. Today we still have not swelled the number of 0.0 players as then.

Then another very unfortunate event happened (which i wont name cos i feel CCP have changed their ways) where people left and threatened in leaving also in big numbers.

Then came incursions and people began to login again cos of isk. Also new changes to ships, ui and CCP fixing stuff has also contributed to increase in login numbers. But there is still this big hole in 0.0 and low sec.
I believe this can only be filled with something like a sanctums buff (or somethign similar) but i believe also that people are gonna be very untrustfull about spending their isk in 0.0 again.

Thats more or less the history regarding the last 4 years or more. But overall the number of players that have registered is higher now. But i would say that the sanctum buff and also an event of a massive war that overwelmed the stars (DRF vs NC) that affected as much as 50% of eve players if not more, was the days that had probably one of the largest logged concurently people in history of eve. This is also surprising cos during that war there was an issue with grid and the amount of people a server could handle before it crashed. Never the less it was a time of highest activity in the history of eve.

You really need to read what people are posting and understand what they are posting prior to launching a screed.
Please, post responsibly. Please have a friend take away your keyboard.

I was about to say the same about you.




Oh, I fully comprehend, I even understand you, that is why I know you have not played EVE for long nor will I see much of you in the future.

Who trolls who? The one trolling or the one making the troll, troll? troll!

This post is so full of win i don't know where to start! CCP please read!

And that's fine with me and the OP. I have no expectations of not being blown up by anyone at anytime. It's part of the game. It's part of the fun. It stops being fun when someone else dictates to me how they think I should play the game!

What does this mean? Can someone translate?

Thanks. I read your post and then re-read her post; seems to make sense in a convoluted sort of way. :)