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Skill advice for 88M SP Char. Do I have to train Capitals?

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Aru Benuse
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-05-13 16:44:57 UTC
88M SP character that can fly almost every non-capital ship in the game (Can't fly Black Ops, Transports or a Golem). Excellent support skills.

What direction do I head in now? Up until now I'd been avoiding Capital Ships but am I finally at the point where that's the only direction to go if I want to keep this character PVP focused?


Total Skillpoints: 87,880,246
Total Number of Skills: 235

Skills at Level 3: 18
Skills at Level 4: 127
Skills at Level 5: 90

Corporation Management
Level 5 Anchoring
Level 3 Corporation Management
Level 3 Ethnic Relations
Total Skillpoints in Group: 792,000

Drones
Level 4 Advanced Drone Interfacing
Level 4 Amarr Drone Specialization
Level 4 Caldari Drone Specialization
Level 5 Combat Drone Operation
Level 5 Drone Durability
Level 5 Drone Interfacing
Level 5 Drone Navigation
Level 5 Drone Sharpshooting
Level 5 Drones
Level 4 Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing
Level 4 Gallente Drone Specialization
Level 5 Heavy Drone Operation
Level 3 Mining Drone Operation
Level 4 Minmatar Drone Specialization
Level 4 Repair Drone Operation
Level 5 Scout Drone Operation
Level 5 Sentry Drone Interfacing
Total Skillpoints in Group: 8,302,903

Electronics
Level 4 Cloaking
Level 3 Cynosural Field Theory
Level 4 Electronic Warfare
Level 5 Electronics
Level 5 Electronics Upgrades
Level 4 Frequency Modulation
Level 4 Long Distance Jamming
Level 5 Long Range Targeting
Level 4 Multitasking
Level 5 Propulsion Jamming
Level 4 Sensor Linking
Level 4 Signal Dispersion
Level 4 Signal Suppression
Level 5 Signature Analysis
Level 4 Signature Focusing
Level 4 Survey
Level 4 Target Painting
Level 5 Targeting
Level 4 Turret Destabilization
Level 4 Weapon Disruption
Total Skillpoints in Group: 4,850,152

Engineering
Level 4 EM Shield Compensation
Level 5 Energy Emission Systems
Level 5 Energy Grid Upgrades
Level 5 Energy Management
Level 4 Energy Pulse Weapons
Level 5 Energy Systems Operation
Level 5 Engineering
Level 4 Explosive Shield Compensation
Level 4 Kinetic Shield Compensation
Level 5 Shield Compensation
Level 4 Shield Emission Systems
Level 5 Shield Management
Level 5 Shield Operation
Level 5 Shield Upgrades
Level 4 Tactical Shield Manipulation
Level 4 Thermic Shield Compensation
Total Skillpoints in Group: 5,076,080

Gunnery
Level 5 Advanced Weapon Upgrades
Level 5 Controlled Bursts
Level 5 Gunnery
Level 4 Large Artillery Specialization
Level 4 Large Autocannon Specialization
Level 4 Large Beam Laser Specialization
Level 4 Large Blaster Specialization
Level 5 Large Energy Turret
Level 5 Large Hybrid Turret
Level 5 Large Projectile Turret
Level 4 Large Pulse Laser Specialization
Level 4 Large Railgun Specialization
Level 4 Medium Artillery Specialization
Level 4 Medium Autocannon Specialization
Level 4 Medium Beam Laser Specialization
Level 4 Medium Blaster Specialization
Level 5 Medium Energy Turret
Level 5 Medium Hybrid Turret
Level 5 Medium Projectile Turret
Level 4 Medium Pulse Laser Specialization
Level 4 Medium Railgun Specialization
Level 5 Motion Prediction
Level 5 Rapid Firing
Level 5 Sharpshooter
Level 4 Small Artillery Specialization
Level 4 Small Autocannon Specialization
Level 4 Small Beam Laser Specialization
Level 4 Small Blaster Specialization
Level 5 Small Energy Turret
Level 5 Small Hybrid Turret
Level 5 Small Projectile Turret
Level 4 Small Pulse Laser Specialization
Level 4 Small Railgun Specialization
Level 5 Surgical Strike
Level 5 Trajectory Analysis
Level 5 Weapon Upgrades
Total Skillpoints in Group: 17,912,474

Industry
Level 4 Industry
Level 3 Mass Production
Level 4 Mining
Level 3 Mining Upgrades
Level 3 Production Efficiency
Level 4 Refining
Total Skillpoints in Group: 208,428

Leadership
Level 4 Armored Warfare
Level 4 Information Warfare
Level 5 Leadership
Level 4 Siege Warfare
Level 4 Skirmish Warfare
Level 4 Warfare Link Specialist
Level 3 Wing Command
Total Skillpoints in Group: 953,570

Mechanics
Level 4 Armor Rigging
Level 4 Astronautics Rigging
Level 4 Drones Rigging
Level 4 Electronic Superiority Rigging
Level 4 EM Armor Compensation
Level 4 Energy Weapon Rigging
Level 4 Explosive Armor Compensation
Level 5 Hull Upgrades
Level 4 Hybrid Weapon Rigging
Level 4 Jury Rigging
Level 4 Kinetic Armor Compensation
Level 4 Launcher Rigging
Level 5 Mechanics
Level 4 Nanite Interfacing
Level 4 Nanite Operation
Level 4 Projectile Weapon Rigging
Level 5 Remote Armor Repair Systems
Level 5 Remote Hull Repair Systems
Level 5 Repair Systems
Level 4 Salvaging
Level 4 Shield Rigging
Level 4 Thermic Armor Compensation
Total Skillpoints in Group: 4,084,481

Missile Launcher Operation
Level 4 Assault Missile Specialization
Level 5 Assault Missiles
Level 4 Bomb Deployment
Level 4 Cruise Missile Specialization
Level 5 Cruise Missiles
Level 4 Defender Missiles
Level 4 FoF Missiles
Level 5 Guided Missile Precision
Level 4 Heavy Missile Specialization
Level 5 Heavy Missiles
Level 4 Light Missile Specialization
Level 5 Light Missiles
Level 5 Missile Bombardment
Level 5 Missile Launcher Operation
Level 5 Missile Projection
Level 5 Rapid Launch
Level 4 Rocket Specialization
Level 5 Rockets
Level 5 Target Navigation Prediction
Level 4 Torpedo Specialization
Level 5 Torpedoes
Level 5 Warhead Upgrades
Total Skillpoints in Group: 11,839,453

Navigation
Level 5 Acceleration Control
Level 5 Afterburner
Level 5 Evasive Maneuvering
Level 5 Fuel Conservation
Level 5 High Speed Maneuvering
Level 5 Navigation
Level 5 Warp Drive Operation
Total Skillpoints in Group: 4,096,000

Planet Management
Level 3 Command Center Upgrades
Level 3 Interplanetary Consolidation
Level 3 Planetology
Level 3 Remote Sensing
Total Skillpoints in Group: 96,000

cont..
Aru Benuse
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-05-13 16:45:34 UTC
Science
Level 4 Archaeology
Level 4 Astrometric Acquisition
Level 4 Astrometric Pinpointing
Level 4 Astrometric Rangefinding
Level 4 Astrometrics
Level 4 Biology
Level 4 Cybernetics
Level 4 Graviton Physics
Level 4 Hacking
Level 4 Infomorph Psychology
Level 5 Science
Level 4 Thermodynamics
Total Skillpoints in Group: 2,066,199

Social
Level 4 Connections
Level 4 Criminal Connections
Level 4 Diplomacy
Level 4 Fast Talk
Level 4 Negotiation
Level 5 Social
Total Skillpoints in Group: 844,315

Spaceship Command
Level 5 Amarr Battleship
Level 5 Amarr Cruiser
Level 5 Amarr Frigate
Level 3 Amarr Industrial
Level 4 Amarr Strategic Cruiser
Level 5 Assault Ships
Level 5 Battlecruisers
Level 4 Caldari Battleship
Level 5 Caldari Cruiser
Level 5 Caldari Frigate
Level 3 Caldari Industrial
Level 4 Caldari Strategic Cruiser
Level 5 Command Ships
Level 4 Covert Ops
Level 5 Destroyers
Level 4 Electronic Attack Ships
Level 5 Gallente Battleship
Level 5 Gallente Cruiser
Level 5 Gallente Frigate
Level 3 Gallente Industrial
Level 4 Gallente Strategic Cruiser
Level 5 Heavy Assault Ships
Level 4 Heavy Interdictors
Level 5 Interceptors
Level 4 Interdictors
Level 4 Logistics
Level 4 Marauders
Level 5 Minmatar Battleship
Level 5 Minmatar Cruiser
Level 5 Minmatar Frigate
Level 3 Minmatar Industrial
Level 4 Minmatar Strategic Cruiser
Level 3 ORE Industrial
Level 5 Recon Ships
Level 5 Spaceship Command
Total Skillpoints in Group: 25,799,836

Subsystems
Level 4 Amarr Defensive Systems
Level 4 Amarr Electronic Systems
Level 4 Amarr Engineering Systems
Level 4 Amarr Offensive Systems
Level 4 Amarr Propulsion Systems
Level 4 Caldari Defensive Systems
Level 4 Caldari Electronic Systems
Level 4 Caldari Engineering Systems
Level 4 Caldari Offensive Systems
Level 4 Caldari Propulsion Systems
Level 4 Gallente Defensive Systems
Level 4 Gallente Electronic Systems
Level 4 Gallente Engineering Systems
Level 4 Gallente Offensive Systems
Level 4 Gallente Propulsion Systems
Level 4 Minmatar Defensive Systems
Level 4 Minmatar Electronic Systems
Level 4 Minmatar Engineering Systems
Level 4 Minmatar Offensive Systems
Level 4 Minmatar Propulsion Systems
Total Skillpoints in Group: 905,100

Trade
Level 3 Contracting
Level 4 Trade
Total Skillpoints in Group: 53,255
Aphos Starslicer
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-05-13 17:36:34 UTC
Maybe some leadership to back up that CS5?

Stay subcap4lyfe
RaVeN Revenge
RaVeN Alliance
#4 - 2012-05-13 19:22:43 UTC
Your character is so much like mine it's scary. http://eveboard.com/pilot/RaVeN_Revenge

Get eveboard!

Stay subcap and do some specs to V.
Do some catagories to all V.
Pick a ship you really like to fly and make every relative skill perfect. Rigging, Drones, Weapon Specs, etc.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-05-13 21:07:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Bump all the subsystem skills to 5 for any T3 you actually fly
Logi 5
Covops 5
Probing skills 5 (assuming you probe)
Cyber 5
Thermodynamics 5
Drug skills 5 (assuming you use drugs)
Armour comps 5
You don't have all BS 5

Those are all very basic subcap skills that you should have had ages ago.
Probing skills are situational depending on how much you probe but the rest really are mandatory.

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Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-05-13 22:51:11 UTC
Get all armor/shield comp to V, that will help you for both subcaps and caps regardless of which way you go.
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#7 - 2012-05-13 23:40:11 UTC
Aru Benuse wrote:
88M SP character that can fly almost every non-capital ship in the game (Can't fly Black Ops, Transports or a Golem). Excellent support skills.

What direction do I head in now? Up until now I'd been avoiding Capital Ships but am I finally at the point where that's the only direction to go if I want to keep this character PVP focused?

To make it easier for us to read, please add your character to http://eveboard.com

As for the number of SP left to get for non-capital PVP, I would say you are about halfway there. My current skillplan that is very similar to what you have in mind will bring me up to 178m SP and that doesn't even include blackops with associated jump or portal skills.
Aru Benuse
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-05-15 00:12:53 UTC
Thanks for all the suggestions.

I probably should have mentioned this but I am currently training Caldari Battleship V and plan to train Electronic Warfare V next - not sure how I missed that one already.

Re: Eveboard. This is an alt. I intentionally did not want any potential PvP foes having an exact skill list.

@Aphos Starslicer: I had planned to go the Leadership route but when they 'balanced' the unscanable T3s I removed it from my immediate radar and haven't really considered it since. You are right if I am staying sub-capital its a good thing to train soon.

@RaVeN Revenge: Your right eerily similar. I had considered maxing out a certain race/ship etc but the beauty of this character is the ability to fly everything. Once I max out in one way I fear I would rarely fly anything else.

@Jack Miton. I rarely fly Logistics and hence have always viewed Logi V as little more than a Triage Module prerequisite. Covops, Cyber, Thermo and Armor Comp V all good suggestions. Thank you.

@Masamune Dekoro. Agree. Added.

@Mashie Saldana. Did you have a suggestion or where you just pointing out how many sub-cap SPs are available?
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#9 - 2012-05-15 07:42:11 UTC
Aru Benuse wrote:
@Mashie Saldana. Did you have a suggestion or where you just pointing out how many sub-cap SPs are available?

It was just a comment in general that you are halfway there to maxing out subcaps so shouldn't have any problem finding skills to do that doesn't involve capitals.

180m is the number of SP I will have according to EVEMon once I'm done with this plan at which stage I will have all subcapitals/subcap weapon specs and support skills to 5.
Savage Creampuff
Vivid Entertainment Group
#10 - 2012-05-18 06:09:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Savage Creampuff
i started training battleships guns and ships when i reached about 92m. it was the t3 battlecruisers that got me to train large guns.
thermo 5 is nice, t3 subsytems to 5 are nice too and a few others. once i get done with the bs, then i'll go back to finishing elec and eng. nice char btw :)

edit: reflecting my poor reading comprehension