Player Features and Ideas Discussion

On the subject of the arguments that suggest that the light carrier cannot fit a good role, the role of a dedicated drone vessel that is not a "full" carrier has been rather neglected. Besides carriers and supercarriers wielding squadrons of fighters and fighter bombers respectively in large and copious amounts, for the subcapital ships there is no equivalent based droneboat that can put out quite a few drones and deal sizeable amounts of damage. The Dominix and the Rattlesnake is the closest thing there is to that, but adding something like the light carrier to use more drones and be more drone oriented over having guns.

For those that say that the damage these drones will do will outpace battleships, I don't think that that will be the case. These drones must travel quite a bit of ways, especially if they are heavies, and sentries do have range on them. Artillery and Railguns and Beam lasers can hit out farther than them for instant damage that can often chop up cruisers and battleships with ease. Travel time and redeployment for the sentries would take time and take a significant chunk out of DPS, unless you decided that you wanted to drop right in the middle of everything and sit there and bet on your own survival, but I imagine that the majority of the time, the escort carriers and their variants will be used at range. Also, drones can be killed and destroyed in combat, rather than guns, which makes them quite fragile and requires you to look at them often.

After reading all the pages..whew.. there are some real good ideas here for a larger combat/escort ship. Some of the better ideas I liked were the fact this/these thing/s could have more than one role (making a counter more difficult).

I support bringing in one type for each race and letting the player base decide how they will use it.

5 fighters but cannot be deployed in highsec.

drone bay maybe half of a normal carrier.

basically everything half of a normal sized carrier.

All in All OP has this moving in the right direction and I think CCP should really take a good look at this one.

we have t2 capital called jump freighters :) but this is another story :)

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Thank you Apollo for your dedication to keeping this thread on people's minds.

yea, i like the old carriers when they can jump on the gate... but this thing is gone so i think we need a higsec carrier :)

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I like this idea for moar minicapitals, filling in the gap between caps and subcaps, and because you made it require advanced spaceship command 4. Also, it seems like a cool idea.

Also, those art pieces look way too much like current ships in EVE.

Christ this thread. I can't read all of it, I skimmed.

These mini-carriers are supposed to "provide combat support to roaming BS fleet forces" - I don't know where you live, but when was the last time you saw anything larger than a battlecruiser in a roaming gang? 2010 roaming RR BS gangs don't really happen anymore, the game has moved on.



Your goal is to support subcap roaming gangs, why not use subcaps to fulfill these roles? There are existing subcap hulls that already have bonuses to all of those roles already, why are you proposing a big ship that does all of them via drones? Even 'doing everything with drones' is a role already filled by the Dominix.



Okay so... "we want to support roaming BS gangs" - by introducing a new ship that makes existing tanking/DPS ships (i.e. Battleships) redundant. Although if these were in the game they'd almost certainly see the most use as semi-AFK ratting and mission running ships.



Hey guys I heard we have these new things called Logistics Cruisers, they're like a million times more mobile than a battleship hull, they have T2 resists and a tiny sig radius and they're useful both because they can repair from long range and they are amazing at repping. But no, lets use this big slow ship that relies on logi-drones that can be swept off the field by any semi-competent bombing run.

tl;dr: You're trying to fill a niche that doesn't exist because it isn't 2010 anymore. Let it go.

You're argument is so compelling with its various and detailed arguments.


Wait, you want something like an orca only better but for less skill points.... wtf are you smoking?



Did you read at all?

No you didn't. Cause if you had, you would know that you were not the first person to say the trite "get a domi" comment and you won't be the last (the world is full of idiots) and all of those arguments were destroyed in detail around page 2-3.

THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM A DOMINIX.

Don't know how many times I need to say it or how many ways I need to explain it.

Learn to read and then come back.

I don't have time for you tonight.