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Looks like we're winning the war: Highsec mining drops by HALF!
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#81 - 2012-05-12 16:50:00 UTC
nubile slave wrote:
Perhaps OP could explain the drop in mineral prices? And the fact that whole areas of Eve Highsec seem to have tons of miners...?Roll


If you put :effort: into planning where you mine you wont replace your hulk.
I never tank my hulk (not on this guy ocf) and yet I have yet to ever get ATTACKED much less lose one.

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Whitehound
#82 - 2012-05-12 17:00:32 UTC
nubile slave wrote:
Perhaps OP could explain the drop in mineral prices? And the fact that whole areas of Eve Highsec seem to have tons of miners...?Roll

The recent drop of mineral prices, like one could see in the last week, is due to a few players selling billions of minerals back into the market after the long climb during the months before. It is the speculators, who are cashing in on their profits. For Tritanium is it the magic 6.00 ISK barrier, which triggered it and simply because it is a round number. The price for Tritanium is however back from the recent drop and climbing again. I expect to see Tritanium stabilize at this price for the foreseeable future. Veldspar has become the 2nd most valuable high-sec ore and miners will put a lot of Tritanium into the market after Hulkageddon. Pyerite, Mexallon and Isogen could be climbing further or Tritanium might fall a little, but the ore prices (ISK/m3) are somewhat unusual and miners will cause these to adjust. Nocxium as the most valuable high-sec mineral will possibly drop further. However, in general is there no price drop and the mineral prices are all on an awesome high.

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Eaorgan Dax
Blood Moon Traders
#83 - 2012-05-12 17:45:53 UTC
James 315 wrote:
Two weeks ago, I wrote a Manifesto II in which I called upon the people of EVE to put a stop to all mining in highsec. Most people probably thought it was crazy to even consider such a thing possible. Not anymore. We're already more than halfway there!

Granted, some miners will return to the belts once Hulkageddon ends. But many will not. 1 Having been forced to adapt and try out other professions, and having found them more rewarding, they will leave mining for good. 2 As the miners' numbers diminish, so does their power and influence over CCP.


You truly are an idiot aren't you?, you have no clue what you are talking about.

Point 1, If mining in high drops further, the price of minerals will go up and the players will start mining again because it's profitable again, all hulkageddon does is restart that cycle over and over and over again.

Point 2. Miners have influence over CCP? So, you wanna tell me that's why warp core stabilizers are such pieces of crap and are hopelessly impractical on a mining barge ( it decreases range DRAMATICALLY and you need at least 2 of the freaking things ), so that nobody will ever use them for this, which in fact makes them sitting ducks when something costing 1 10th of the price of a barge, locks, scramble's and shoots them.

Time to take off your tinfoil hat mister, if anything, CCP is providing aggressors with more and better tools then it does the industrialists.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#84 - 2012-05-12 18:21:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
Lets throw in higher refiner taxes :P

espeically reprocessing, and penalizing modules being reprocessed on thier state of repiar.

what i am not enjoying however is how my little amount of isk buys.

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Tobiaz
Spacerats
#85 - 2012-05-12 18:24:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobiaz
Herping yourDerp wrote:
inb4 the same people who think pvp is the entire game complains that a cruiser costs as much as a plex.

EVE is at its best when people take the galaxy and put it upon its head. Nothing in this game beats adding another "remember that time when..."

Nova Fox wrote:
Lets throw in higher refiner taxes :P

espeically reprocessing, and penalizing modules being reprocessed on thier state of repiar.

what i am not enjoying however is how my little amount of isk buys.

Start by making refining and reprocessing) done by slots. Then make rent dynamic like offices.

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Doc Severide
Doomheim
#86 - 2012-05-12 18:25:59 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
I hope every single high-sec miner rage-quits in tears. Until they do, I'll be upping my ransom prices on T1 hulls, which are finally worth something.

Pathetic... Let's drive away subscribers in droves until there is no one left to pay the bills...
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#87 - 2012-05-12 18:28:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobiaz
Doc Severide wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
I hope every single high-sec miner rage-quits in tears. Until they do, I'll be upping my ransom prices on T1 hulls, which are finally worth something.

Pathetic... Let's drive away subscribers in droves until there is no one left to pay the bills...

Dramaqueen. That's how the game was in the beginning anyway and it was pretty awesome.

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Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#88 - 2012-05-12 18:36:30 UTC
I like the direction the game is going tbh we just need the new higher taxes and bounty nerf to be implemented and then a few months for prices to settle out a little.
Wilma Lawson
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#89 - 2012-05-12 18:45:45 UTC
Yay! I like winning!
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#90 - 2012-05-12 18:54:35 UTC
James 315 wrote:
Looks like we're winning the war: Highsec mining drops by HALF!


no, this is not a war.. it's a battle and you are not really winning it. what exactly would you say is the goal accomplishment that has triggered your win - happy dance? hulks kills? Roll can't be the market.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#91 - 2012-05-12 18:59:39 UTC
Tobiaz wrote:
Herping yourDerp wrote:
inb4 the same people who think pvp is the entire game complains that a cruiser costs as much as a plex.

EVE is at its best when people take the galaxy and put it upon its head. Nothing in this game beats adding another "remember that time when..."

Nova Fox wrote:
Lets throw in higher refiner taxes :P

espeically reprocessing, and penalizing modules being reprocessed on thier state of repiar.

what i am not enjoying however is how my little amount of isk buys.

Start by making refining and reprocessing) done by slots. Then make rent dynamic like offices.



Its more like my paycheck has been doubled but the price of bread has tripled.

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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#92 - 2012-05-12 19:17:43 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:


Its more like my paycheck has been doubled but the price of bread has tripled.


Time to research a Bread I BPO and make a profit. Wonder if there is a Yeast Datacore to make Tech II Bread?

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Tobiaz
Spacerats
#93 - 2012-05-12 19:21:41 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
Tobiaz wrote:
Herping yourDerp wrote:
inb4 the same people who think pvp is the entire game complains that a cruiser costs as much as a plex.

EVE is at its best when people take the galaxy and put it upon its head. Nothing in this game beats adding another "remember that time when..."

Nova Fox wrote:
Lets throw in higher refiner taxes :P

espeically reprocessing, and penalizing modules being reprocessed on thier state of repiar.

what i am not enjoying however is how my little amount of isk buys.

Start by making refining and reprocessing) done by slots. Then make rent dynamic like offices.



Its more like my paycheck has been doubled but the price of bread has tripled.


That's no big problem considering your paycheck probably has been doubled quite a few years in a row.

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2012-05-12 19:27:07 UTC
The people saying that prices will increase significantly are completely wrong.

It is a well acknowledged fact that most of the minerals in this game are generated not from mining, but from recycling unneeded, modules, and salvage.

Also, the hatred is not for miners in general, but hi-sec miners. Come into low and null and actually experience the game.

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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#95 - 2012-05-12 19:47:14 UTC
Tobiaz wrote:
Doc Severide wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
I hope every single high-sec miner rage-quits in tears. Until they do, I'll be upping my ransom prices on T1 hulls, which are finally worth something.

Pathetic... Let's drive away subscribers in droves until there is no one left to pay the bills...

Dramaqueen. That's how the game was in the beginning anyway and it was pretty awesome.


Yay, sure the 350 people CCP has hired since then will think exaclty the same about CCP losing the income that justifies their paychecks...
BiaXia
Perkone
Caldari State
#96 - 2012-05-12 19:57:10 UTC
Only one post? James, you're losing your touch.
Wilma Lawson
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#97 - 2012-05-12 20:00:22 UTC
Tobiaz wrote:
That's no big problem considering your paycheck probably has been doubled quite a few years in a row.

Yay! I love propaganda wars! Are we winning?! I so hope so!
Plentath
Sparkle Motion.
#98 - 2012-05-12 20:44:48 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Tobiaz wrote:
Doc Severide wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
I hope every single high-sec miner rage-quits in tears. Until they do, I'll be upping my ransom prices on T1 hulls, which are finally worth something.

Pathetic... Let's drive away subscribers in droves until there is no one left to pay the bills...

Dramaqueen. That's how the game was in the beginning anyway and it was pretty awesome.


Yay, sure the 350 people CCP has hired since then will think exaclty the same about CCP losing the income that justifies their paychecks...


I'm sure those people look at their subscription numbers, not what forum clowns think.

Why? Because those numbers show an increase where all other MMOs are shedding subscribers.

But, according to your kind, CCP ought to make the game more like the themepark MMOs that are losing subscribers?

Okay.
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#99 - 2012-05-12 21:01:37 UTC
Tobiaz wrote:
Doc Severide wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
I hope every single high-sec miner rage-quits in tears. Until they do, I'll be upping my ransom prices on T1 hulls, which are finally worth something.

Pathetic... Let's drive away subscribers in droves until there is no one left to pay the bills...

Dramaqueen. That's how the game was in the beginning anyway and it was pretty awesome.

If you can't reply to me without calling me names, then **** off...
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#100 - 2012-05-12 21:13:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Pok Nibin
You're winning a "war" against mining ships? Man. I'll notify Sun Tzu. I'm sure he'll be impressed. A war against mining ships! I wonder how you'd do against garbage trucks! (I shudder to think!)

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