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Looks like we're winning the war: Highsec mining drops by HALF!

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Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#381 - 2012-05-28 19:34:21 UTC
Vicky Somers wrote:
I was sitting cloaked in your home system and a staggering 45.53% of your alliance docked up. lol numbers


Wow, so you saw around 4500 players all dock up at once in VFK? That must have been quite the TiDI show.

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Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
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#382 - 2012-05-29 18:58:57 UTC
Cheeks For Weeks wrote:
Once hulkageddon is over I'm willing to bet life will continue as if it never happened... as earlier mentioned... just like last year

And what happens if Hulkageddon is never over? Lol
Ohanka
#383 - 2012-05-29 19:10:30 UTC
James 315 wrote:
Cheeks For Weeks wrote:
Once hulkageddon is over I'm willing to bet life will continue as if it never happened... as earlier mentioned... just like last year

And what happens if Hulkageddon is never over? Lol


The goons will forget to pay sov fees and be disbanded. The goonswarm will then flood to Highsec and destroy everything in its path like a plague of locusts. Like the eve apocolypse.

North Korea is Best Korea

Cheeks For Weeks
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#384 - 2012-05-30 06:20:17 UTC
James 315 wrote:
Cheeks For Weeks wrote:
Once hulkageddon is over I'm willing to bet life will continue as if it never happened... as earlier mentioned... just like last year

And what happens if Hulkageddon is never over? Lol

I'll be amazed if you actually manage to stretch it out. Impressed even.
Lexmana
#385 - 2012-05-30 06:27:39 UTC
Cheeks For Weeks wrote:
James 315 wrote:
Cheeks For Weeks wrote:
Once hulkageddon is over I'm willing to bet life will continue as if it never happened... as earlier mentioned... just like last year

And what happens if Hulkageddon is never over? Lol

I'll be amazed if you actually manage to stretch it out. Impressed even.

Have you seen this announcement Goonswarm Federation: Sponsoring Emergent Gameplay!?
Fouljin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#386 - 2012-05-30 06:46:21 UTC
I used to play eve with 4 accounts, never used a plex to pay for gametime.
One toon is pure combat toon, missions and pvp, one is combat / miner and two are pure miners/builders basicly without any combat skills.

None of my mining ships have never been ganked. (few tries byt my hulks and orcas are tanked to the boot even in highsec)
I have been away for few months because my reallife can sometimes be really hectic and busy but I have always returned.
If general attitude towards miners is KOS then I have to rethink about activating all my accounts. I can bore my self to death with one account doing missions and pvp.

But as always, In Eve the darkside of human nature really pops up ;) (or whenever you get to do anything anonymously in internet)

Lexmana
#387 - 2012-05-30 06:50:16 UTC
Fouljin wrote:

If general attitude towards miners is KOS then I have to rethink about activating all my accounts. I can bore my self to death with one account doing missions and pvp.

You can always roll another account for ganking. It is probably more fun than mining anyway. I hear this is now a valid profession with 100M ISK payout for every 10th gank (in addition to all the loot and salvage from the gank).
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#388 - 2012-05-30 06:57:58 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
Fouljin wrote:

If general attitude towards miners is KOS then I have to rethink about activating all my accounts. I can bore my self to death with one account doing missions and pvp.

You can always roll another account for ganking. It is probably more fun than mining anyway. I hear this is now a valid profession with 100M ISK payout for every 10th gank (in addition to all the loot and salvage from the gank).

You, too, can be a professional Exhumer Ganker.

Your bounty: 100million for every 10 turn-ins of "Exhumer-Class Ship Killmail".

Collect and turn in. Make ISK. Enjoy~ The cost of this program isn't all that large compared to reimbursements when on an active war footing. You can check the audits of the alliance money to see how much the latter is.

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Gulboy
Absolute Order
Absolute Honor
#389 - 2012-05-30 07:49:09 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lexmana wrote:
Fouljin wrote:

If general attitude towards miners is KOS then I have to rethink about activating all my accounts. I can bore my self to death with one account doing missions and pvp.

You can always roll another account for ganking. It is probably more fun than mining anyway. I hear this is now a valid profession with 100M ISK payout for every 10th gank (in addition to all the loot and salvage from the gank).

You, too, can be a professional Exhumer Ganker.

Your bounty: 100million for every 10 turn-ins of "Exhumer-Class Ship Killmail".

Collect and turn in. Make ISK. Enjoy~ The cost of this program isn't all that large compared to reimbursements when on an active war footing. You can check the audits of the alliance money to see how much the latter is.

Heh heh, Goonswarm hulkageddon recruitment; effective I would say.
I think you should make small payments to those hulks that tank themselves effectively. For example, someone in my old alliance was in a tanked/shield rigged hulk, and he succesfully tanked 5 thrashers. Someone should give a reward to this aswell.
Me? I find suitable c1-3 wormholes and mine arkonor in their gravimetric sites.
Cheeks For Weeks
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#390 - 2012-05-30 17:35:26 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
Cheeks For Weeks wrote:
James 315 wrote:
Cheeks For Weeks wrote:
Once hulkageddon is over I'm willing to bet life will continue as if it never happened... as earlier mentioned... just like last year

And what happens if Hulkageddon is never over? Lol

I'll be amazed if you actually manage to stretch it out. Impressed even.

Have you seen this announcement Goonswarm Federation: Sponsoring Emergent Gameplay!?


It's an excellent business plan, but stuff like this can't last forever. Honestly if something like this manages to stretch out it would be the fault of the victims for not doing something about it. Indoctrinating people to become gankers isn't the answer as it simply isn't everyone's play style.

If I were at the top of that violent pyramid i'd be the one crafting the hulks to be destroyed. This has already been said, and I could care less if someone has a legitimate defense against it. It would be dumb not to take advantage of something like that,but lets be real here... extending HG for the sake of good graces is probably one of the most far-fetched excuses anyone could come up with in a game like EvE.

The part I can't figure out is how miners got it into their heads to allow themselves to become victims when they were fully warned that space wasn't safe. Risk aversion can be easy if you put some thought into it. Suicide ganking has been around long before hulkageddon V.

People will adapt. Eventually. Once they get around their self-absorbed notion that they are entitled to 100% protected mining.
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#391 - 2012-05-30 17:40:36 UTC
why would we do something silly like craft hulks
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#392 - 2012-05-30 17:40:53 UTC
that's a lot more effort than charging hundreds of millions for the mats
Cheeks For Weeks
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#393 - 2012-05-30 19:19:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Cheeks For Weeks
I'm not saying I'm an expert at economics, but I'd imagine by now the market is flooded with mats as it is.

Selling hulks and macks using BPOs is something not everyone has access to. By having them destroyed, those who sell stand to gain because of the increased rate of purchase.
It's also a good way to achieve a ballpark estimate on whether or not there are enough targets left to pop to keep HG going. I don't know the real sources of goon income, but I'm just speaking about HG.



I'd be willing to bet goons have the numbers as well as the extended alts to pull it off.
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#394 - 2012-05-30 19:23:47 UTC
Cheeks For Weeks wrote:
I'm not saying I'm an expert at economics, but I'd imagine by now the market is flooded with mats as it is.

I'd be willing to bet goons have the numbers as well as the extended alts to pull it off.



More importantly, we have the finance people to understand the math.

Shocking I know.

Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal.

Creator of Burn Jita

Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve.

Drax Dremal
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#395 - 2012-05-30 19:31:21 UTC
Results dont look good for EVE's player base.

However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
Winston Churchill
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#396 - 2012-05-30 20:00:47 UTC
Drax Dremal wrote:
Results dont look good for EVE's player base.

However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
Winston Churchill


Aren't you the guy that accused us of bot moon mining?


Haldor Rune
State War Academy
Caldari State
#397 - 2012-05-30 20:01:32 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Drax Dremal wrote:
Results dont look good for EVE's player base.

However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
Winston Churchill


Aren't you the guy that accused us of bot moon mining?




Looooool.
Cheeks For Weeks
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#398 - 2012-05-30 20:02:09 UTC
Aryth wrote:
Cheeks For Weeks wrote:
I'm not saying I'm an expert at economics, but I'd imagine by now the market is flooded with mats as it is.

I'd be willing to bet goons have the numbers as well as the extended alts to pull it off.



More importantly, we have the finance people to understand the math.

Shocking I know.


Enlighten me. How hard is it to pull up a spreadsheet and calculate the HG revenue for the week?
As I already stated, I don't know goon income, but I don't believe you'd be dumb enough to pull a publicity stunt without a budget.
I can see them setting aside some isk to fuel their little game. As long as there are no diminishing returns on that budget, you could keep it going.

Quote:
Results dont look good for EVE's player base.


Those who think that are the ones preparing to leave in the first place due to lack of willingness to accept the nature of the game.
Honestly, it can't be that serious.
Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#399 - 2012-05-30 20:17:30 UTC
Cheeks For Weeks wrote:
Aryth wrote:
Cheeks For Weeks wrote:
I'm not saying I'm an expert at economics, but I'd imagine by now the market is flooded with mats as it is.

I'd be willing to bet goons have the numbers as well as the extended alts to pull it off.



More importantly, we have the finance people to understand the math.

Shocking I know.


Enlighten me. How hard is it to pull up a spreadsheet and calculate the HG revenue for the week?
As I already stated, I don't know goon income, but I don't believe you'd be dumb enough to pull a publicity stunt without a budget.
I can see them setting aside some isk to fuel their little game. As long as there are no diminishing returns on that budget, you could keep it going.

Quote:
Results dont look good for EVE's player base.


Those who think that are the ones preparing to leave in the first place due to lack of willingness to accept the nature of the game.
Honestly, it can't be that serious.


You do not need a spreadsheet to "calculate the revenue". You only need to know how much of a hulk is tech, how much of the daily volume we sell, and is that greater than we we could possibly spend on HG.

Let me skip to the punchline, it is much greater.

Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal.

Creator of Burn Jita

Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve.

Khadann
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#400 - 2012-05-30 20:22:09 UTC
Just reading the title again...

Since when is there a war against miners?