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cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#41 - 2012-05-16 20:13:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Cyndrogen
ShahFluffers wrote:

Errr... not seeing why. They are used to build ships... which requires minerals... which need to be mined by miners... which are collected and used by industrialists... shipped by haulers... sold by traders... bought by PvPers... who then blow up everyone at odds with his/her supplier at his/her level and all the way down the chain.


Ok, I will try to explain in simple terms. A BPO fresh off the market, lets say for a battlecruiser, costs what again? A few hundred million. BIG sink right from the start. Looking at eve central a drake BPO costs over 300 million.

Now, lets say you buy that BPO it is inefficient. Ok now what? Research the BPO? That will also take time and ISK.

By the time you are finished you could have bought a BPC for under 1 million, built your drake army and still have millions of ISK to spend on fittings and other goods.

It makes no sense for a noob to purchase ANY bpo because the majority of veterans who have invested time and money into BPO research have made it very lucrative to use BPC and NOT bpo and still be able to manufacture as many ships as possible without ever owning a BPO.

Unless you plan on playing eve online for the next 23 years then a BPO may actually pay for itself and you can start making a profit!

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#42 - 2012-05-17 03:05:18 UTC
cyndrogen wrote:
It makes no sense for a noob to purchase ANY bpo because the majority of veterans who have invested time and money into BPO research have made it very lucrative to use BPC and NOT bpo and still be able to manufacture as many ships as possible without ever owning a BPO.

Sooooo... your beef is with older players then? Because that's not a problem with "feature bloat."

cyndrogen wrote:
Unless you plan on playing eve online for the next 23 years then a BPO may actually pay for itself and you can start making a profit!

It depends on what you intend to do.

If you find a general location where the local market is anemic and can gain a steady stream of cheap minerals you can turn a tidy little profit off an unresearched BPO (ex. Solitude region as it is a patch of high-sec surrounded by low and null-sec space... residents of that place either have to make their own stuff or buy it at high prices).

Now... if you WANT to do things the hard way, yes... it takes time. Just like everything else in the game. You don't become a "good" PvPer without putting in time, effort, and ISK... do you?

How did you Veterans start?
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-05-18 13:39:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
cyndrogen wrote:

HINT: Goons are not paying money they are using ISK. Without money there is no eve online. Get it?


HINT: The PLEX they purchase with ISK was still bought by someone with real money. By proxy, paying to play with ISK is still supporting CCP.

If people didn't buy PLEX with ISK, no one would buy PLEX with money. If no one bought PLEX with money, people that may not have the financial means to play would no longer play. CCP would then lose money. Get it?

As to the main subject of the OP... Not supporting.

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Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2012-05-18 14:39:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Drake Draconis
cyndrogen wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:

Errr... not seeing why. They are used to build ships... which requires minerals... which need to be mined by miners... which are collected and used by industrialists... shipped by haulers... sold by traders... bought by PvPers... who then blow up everyone at odds with his/her supplier at his/her level and all the way down the chain.


Ok, I will try to explain in simple terms. A BPO fresh off the market, lets say for a battlecruiser, costs what again? A few hundred million. BIG sink right from the start. Looking at eve central a drake BPO costs over 300 million.

Now, lets say you buy that BPO it is inefficient. Ok now what? Research the BPO? That will also take time and ISK.

By the time you are finished you could have bought a BPC for under 1 million, built your drake army and still have millions of ISK to spend on fittings and other goods.

It makes no sense for a noob to purchase ANY bpo because the majority of veterans who have invested time and money into BPO research have made it very lucrative to use BPC and NOT bpo and still be able to manufacture as many ships as possible without ever owning a BPO.

Unless you plan on playing eve online for the next 23 years then a BPO may actually pay for itself and you can start making a profit!



Your doing it wrong...I suggest you talk to people who use BPO's before you spout more crap.

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cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#45 - 2012-05-18 22:42:34 UTC
Drake Draconis wrote:
cyndrogen wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:

Errr... not seeing why. They are used to build ships... which requires minerals... which need to be mined by miners... which are collected and used by industrialists... shipped by haulers... sold by traders... bought by PvPers... who then blow up everyone at odds with his/her supplier at his/her level and all the way down the chain.


Ok, I will try to explain in simple terms. A BPO fresh off the market, lets say for a battlecruiser, costs what again? A few hundred million. BIG sink right from the start. Looking at eve central a drake BPO costs over 300 million.

Now, lets say you buy that BPO it is inefficient. Ok now what? Research the BPO? That will also take time and ISK.

By the time you are finished you could have bought a BPC for under 1 million, built your drake army and still have millions of ISK to spend on fittings and other goods.

It makes no sense for a noob to purchase ANY bpo because the majority of veterans who have invested time and money into BPO research have made it very lucrative to use BPC and NOT bpo and still be able to manufacture as many ships as possible without ever owning a BPO.

Unless you plan on playing eve online for the next 23 years then a BPO may actually pay for itself and you can start making a profit!



Your doing it wrong...I suggest you talk to people who use BPO's before you spout more crap.


lol I love these quick responses. Prove that I'm wrong, show me the math if you're so smart.

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