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Wormholes killed null sec
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Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-05-11 00:25:06 UTC
Calfis wrote:
If nullsec is dead why do the blobs seem to be getting bigger?


Corpses have a tendency to bloat, at least until you poke them with a stick.
"If."
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#42 - 2012-05-11 00:27:23 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Miilla wrote:
Wormholes are great as personal region taxies (Wonkavaders).

You are just bitter because using Wormholes we can get into deep null past your choke point gate camps.


I love it when TEST finds a wormhole that can be taken as a shortcut to get to a distant objective / fight.

9/10 times people get stuck outside the entrance or inside, lol.


This is what makes wormholes more friendly to small ops and solo players, not just the lack of local. Force projection is much harder because of mass limits and changing topography. You can move a small fleet a couple of hops, but trying to move a hundred ships through even a small chain would become much more logistically difficult.
Verte Sinkon
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2012-05-11 00:30:48 UTC
Hell of a lot of people being passive aggressive about getting their asses kicked in/out of null sec or something because damn.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#44 - 2012-05-11 00:31:51 UTC
Nullsec doesn't seem very dead from my vantage point!
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#45 - 2012-05-11 00:51:32 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Nullsec doesn't seem very dead from my vantage point!


Eve has been dying for 9 years.
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#46 - 2012-05-11 00:56:13 UTC
Patient 2428190 wrote:
The PvP being better really makes no sense.

Unless maybe you always thought camping a high sec exit hole, always ready to jump into safety in a moment's notice, with the petition saved in the notepad in case you get killed on the other side is thrilling game play?

Sure other things may happen, but pretty sure that's the major one.


Those games only happen with non-wormholers for the most part as far as I know. In my experience that was generally the case anyway. Wormholers tend to have more important and/or better things to do.

PvP in wormholes can be very good. Mostly it is small gang skirmishes and sometimes solo stuff. A lot of Wormholers are PvPers either by nature, experience, or requirement; it's pretty well a given that you can expect they'll use tactics from Low to Null as well as some new stuff specific to wormhole fighting.

Specific conditions in wormholes also make things interesting, and you'll find battles can move back and forth and often the outcome is determined by knowledge of the terrain as much as by skill and determination. Even I've had fun doing it with my lack of experience.

Didn't get any kills, but that was mostly because ships blow up to fast when you actually get down and engage. I did survive one encounter I probably wouldn't have in K-Space too. The mechanics don't include aggression on Wormholes, but are timed instead, so I survived because I was tanked like a beast and managed to dodge through with 7 attackers or so.
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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#47 - 2012-05-11 01:07:59 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Nullsec doesn't seem very dead from my vantage point!


Eve has been dying for 9 years.


Doesn't look that way to me. It has plateaued, but sure isn't dying.
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#48 - 2012-05-11 01:10:23 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Nullsec doesn't seem very dead from my vantage point!


Eve has been dying for 9 years.


And here we have the dweller never anything positive to say.. You must have a s-h-i-t life bro..

..
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-05-11 01:11:38 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Darth Tickles wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Nullsec doesn't seem very dead from my vantage point!


Eve has been dying for 9 years.


Doesn't look that way to me. It has plateaued, but sure isn't dying.


How beautiful...It's New Eden's heartbeat...
"If."
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#50 - 2012-05-11 01:18:52 UTC
Sorry, let me rephrase that.

Eve has been "dying" for 9 years.

I think the first go may have been a bit too subtle.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#51 - 2012-05-11 01:21:06 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
Sorry, let me rephrase that.

Eve has been "dying" for 9 years.

I think the first go may have been a bit too subtle.


The game is only getting better.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-05-11 01:26:36 UTC
I don't like how wormholes turned out, but they are a good thing for nullsec. Some alliances like it, but most players it can be the first taste of nullsec life. They get bored, move on, but after tasting it, they want it back and join low/null.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#53 - 2012-05-11 01:30:08 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
I don't like how wormholes turned out, but they are a good thing for nullsec. Some alliances like it, but most players it can be the first taste of nullsec life. They get bored, move on, but after tasting it, they want it back and join low/null.


Eh, WHs are pretty different from null. They're harsher in some ways (no local, no stations, etc), more forgiving in others (extremely easy to defend, very safe from roaming ganks, little need for coordination past a point). I wouldn't say living in one gives you a taste of 0.0 life, so much as it gives you a taste of WH life.
Apolyon I
Shadow of ISW
#54 - 2012-05-11 01:48:41 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
I don't like how wormholes turned out, but they are a good thing for nullsec. Some alliances like it, but most players it can be the first taste of nullsec life. They get bored, move on, but after tasting it, they want it back and join low/null.

hell no, I was in null. will ever never go back there
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#55 - 2012-05-11 01:49:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
Double Poast
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#56 - 2012-05-11 01:50:31 UTC
Apolyon I wrote:
Markus Reese wrote:
I don't like how wormholes turned out, but they are a good thing for nullsec. Some alliances like it, but most players it can be the first taste of nullsec life. They get bored, move on, but after tasting it, they want it back and join low/null.

hell no, I was in null. will ever never go back there


I take it you lost? Lol

Finfleet in corp history. Suspicions confirmed. Must be ****** to join an alliance with unreasonable expectations of its members only to lose to one having fun!
Apolyon I
Shadow of ISW
#57 - 2012-05-11 01:58:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Apolyon I
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Apolyon I wrote:
Markus Reese wrote:
I don't like how wormholes turned out, but they are a good thing for nullsec. Some alliances like it, but most players it can be the first taste of nullsec life. They get bored, move on, but after tasting it, they want it back and join low/null.

hell no, I was in null. will ever never go back there


I take it you lost? Lol

Finfleet in corp history. Suspicions confirmed. Must be ****** to join an alliance with unreasonable expectations of its members only to lose to one having fun!

no, nothing alliance related, just NS sucks, blob sucks too.

EDIT: here's how NS works, enemy has 10 guys, if I fly my bhaal in and fight, it'll rise to 30 guys try to whore on my km

for WH, enemy only has10 guys no matter what I fly, see the difference??
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