Player Features and Ideas Discussion

And for defensive plexing I won't get shot either?

The other aspect is that with the forced killing of NPCs now you will permanently mess up your faction standings locking you out of highsec even after you leave FW. It took me a long while to get my Caldari standings back up high enough that I could visit Jita again. I'd rather not lock myself out of highsec forever just for engaging in PVP in FW in my past. I can't run datacentre agents more than once so... find a solution for this please? Or tell me you like that there are permanent consequences for having picked a side in FW that persist after leaving?

Then it has been added after I quit the plexing game some two years ago, cannot count the number of times I have saved a pod after ship popped without the ability to move much less fight.

But raises a tasty idea: Five second gate cloak when coming through plex gate. Double (or triple) width of 'spawn sphere'. ie make it a 5-7.5km radius rather than 2.5km and you'll suddenly have a fighting chance against even numbers who are entrenched inside plex.

I am not sure what the plans are with the t1 cruisers, but with the change of t2 cruisers being allowed into mediums, logistics ships and recons are going to become more common. This will make people more risk averse, thereby decreasing the likelyhood that a gang will jump into another unless there are have equal numbers of logi/recons on both sides.

A more elegant solution would to make T2 cruisers in line with battlecruisers. T2 frigates are not allowed into the frigate sized plex, so why should t2 cruisers be allowed into T1?

Even if you don't shoot the rats, you'll get promotions from capturing plexes. Later promotions give you the largest faction standings in the game; the earliest promotions are competitive with what you'd get from running the SoE epic arc. So promotions destroy enemy standings all by themselves, and making you kill rats to plex is not really piling on new diplomatic troubles for you.

Train Diplomacy (a rank 1 skill); shop in Jita by just flying in (faction navy only web, and are entirely evaded by agile ships) and buying stuff and having an alt/courier service ship it out. Or even have an alt do the purchasing and contracting both, without ever leaving jita.

What you're really restricted from is missioning, incursions, and public events - stuff that requires you to hang aronud in a system, rather than move through it - in half of highsec.

When was the last time you were in a fleet fight in a plex? Everyone sits at range of the warpin anyways (with the button currently 60KM off) except for 1 person running it for the benefit of the fleet.

I know that. That's why I waited so long in my Eve life to finally join FW. I had some things to finish up. But lots of newer people I have been meeting don't understand what they are getting into in regards to the pain in the butt it's going to be for them after they leave FW. Of corse there is consequences for them, but the grind in this game is bad. But I suppose this is one of those "eve is hard for the sake of being hard arguments"?

So far I LOVE everything about this but this:

a) If the pilot goes "off grid" are they still considered in the plex zone? (To prevent an enemy player from just burning away in a 8k/s dramiel forever.

b) System defence is possible with a super nano ship that runs forever with offgrid boost. Mix this with the grid mechanics and it can get a little exploitable in the sense that defence is no longer pvp but "run around and around and around until the opponent gets bored".

I do not feel the capture beacon location should change, at least not as much as you are suggesting.

At the moment when I pick up a ship on scan I have to decide to close to the beacon or stay and run the timer it will be easy to camp the warp in. I often camp the warp in any way, the npc’s can be killed and then I can run the timer if things are quiet.

The main reason I don’t like this is that currently if I pick up multiple ships on scan and then one warps in I can still choose to fight in the knowledge subsequent ships at least have some distance to travel. I don’t think lots of blobbing on the warp in will be fun.

I also feel that being able to contest the beacon from any point in the plex is exploitable, currently if someone gets range within a plex I can still approach and start counting down the timer they then are forced into engaging or risk losing the plex, the increased beacon activation range should give enough distance.

It is the NPC speed, tanking and timer changes that will work against afk farming plexers not moving the beacon.

I also do not like the ship restriction changes.

I can get T1 cruiser fights I can get frigate fights. T1 cruisers will be made obsolete in the plexes and the new small size will just be full of assault ships reducing the role of destoyers and even navy frigs.

I did not imagine all of the "You have been promoted." notifications that arrived the instant I captured a plex.

I'm with XG on the capture/contest range, making it 30km all around and being able to contest as soon as you're on grid gives a buff to kitey faggots that don't need any more buffs to their play style. Is there any reason why you guys don't want to make the timer run back when someone is not actively running it?