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What's a good salvager ship?
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Garath Kane
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-05-09 20:15:55 UTC
I'm fairly new so pardon if this question is too open ended/asked 1000x/etc/etc.

What's a good salvager ship? (preferably Caldari as that's what I'm skilled for). Mostly looking to go clean up my wrecks after missions. I just started doing lvl3s in a Drake.

I imagine something quick with a good cargo hold and high slots for a Salvager and a Tractor beam. Maybe something like a Heron?

Thanks :)
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-05-09 20:17:30 UTC
Try destroyer.

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Mac Tir
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-05-09 20:22:41 UTC
I think you want a Noctis.
Kalli Brixzat
#4 - 2012-05-09 20:23:36 UTC
Caleidascope wrote:
Try destroyer.


This.

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4xSalvager
4xTractor Beam

Mid: MWD+Cap Regen

Low: Expanded Cargobay

Rigs: 1x Cargo optimizer; 2xSalvage Tackle

Enjoy.
Alara IonStorm
#5 - 2012-05-09 20:26:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Noctis is the top tier salvage ship with salvage and tractor beam bonuses. It is plain out amazing. 32-96 km tractor beams depending on skill level that pull in wrecks faster, perma MWD, 5% per level faster Salvage Cycles and 1500 Cargo.

Cormerant will do well for cheap. 8 highs for tractors and salvagers. good base speed. 450m3 Base Cargo.

Good Noctis 60-75mil
Rigged Cormie with 3 Tractors and Rigs around 8-12mil.
Salo Aldeland
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-05-09 20:33:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Salo Aldeland
Destroyers work great for light salvage duty. Loads of high slots for salvagers and tractor beams. Catalyst has best potential cargo capacity, followed closely by the Coercer. Cormorant has the least by far, since it only has one low slot for cargo expanders. It does have the largest cargo hold before mods, though.

Once you start doing level 4's you'll probably find that whichever destroyer you choose won't be able to keep up with the amount of loot you're collecting. Although the salvaged materials themselves take up very little room, all the modules and ammo piles up and you'll be making multiple trips. At least, this was true before Inferno. Haven't done any salvaging since, and with no more meta 0 drops you might find that the volume of loot is enough for a destroyer. But as enemy ships start to orbit at longer ranges the distance between wrecks will get bigger and bigger and you'll start to hate flying between them, even with a MWD. That's when you want to train for a Noctis. Being able to reach every wreck on the map without having to move an inch is pretty sweet.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-05-09 20:53:46 UTC
Oh i dont know... how about the only ship that specifically exists to salvage?

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Garath Kane
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-05-09 20:54:15 UTC
Awesome suggestions guys. Above and beyond.

Looks like the Noctis is the eventual goal, but I'll start with a Destroyer (probably Cormorant just because it's convenient) to get me started with the lvl3 missions.

8-12 mil is a good cheap start and we'll see how quickly it returns its investment.

Really appreciate the replies.
Kalli Brixzat
#9 - 2012-05-09 21:11:00 UTC
Salo Aldeland wrote:
Destroyers work great for light salvage duty. Loads of high slots for salvagers and tractor beams. Catalyst has best potential cargo capacity, followed closely by the Coercer. Cormorant has the least by far, since it only has one low slot for cargo expanders. It does have the largest cargo hold before mods, though.

Once you start doing level 4's you'll probably find that whichever destroyer you choose won't be able to keep up with the amount of loot you're collecting. Although the salvaged materials themselves take up very little room, all the modules and ammo piles up and you'll be making multiple trips. At least, this was true before Inferno. Haven't done any salvaging since, and with no more meta 0 drops you might find that the volume of loot is enough for a destroyer. But as enemy ships start to orbit at longer ranges the distance between wrecks will get bigger and bigger and you'll start to hate flying between them, even with a MWD. That's when you want to train for a Noctis. Being able to reach every wreck on the map without having to move an inch is pretty sweet.


Noctis is obviously the ultimate goal, but with a ~100M price tag (fitted/rigged), it's a hefty investment.

As for the bit about needing to make multiple trips, that's just not so. Other than the occasional WC, X Extravaganza and maybe The Blockade, a ghetto salvage dessie can pretty much handle any mission. Especially a Catalyst w/ 1 or 2 cargo optimization rigs.

Garath Kane wrote:
Awesome suggestions guys. Above and beyond.

Looks like the Noctis is the eventual goal, but I'll start with a Destroyer (probably Cormorant just because it's convenient) to get me started with the lvl3 missions.

8-12 mil is a good cheap start and we'll see how quickly it returns its investment.

Really appreciate the replies.


You're very welcome.

BTW - you won't need 8-12 million to build your first salvage destroyer. The tractors will make up approximately 80-90% of the cost. ~5M should get it done.
Salo Aldeland
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-05-09 21:14:44 UTC
Kalli Brixzat wrote:

As for the bit about needing to make multiple trips, that's just not so. Other than the occasional WC, X Extravaganza and maybe The Blockade, a ghetto salvage dessie can pretty much handle any mission. Especially a Catalyst w/ 1 or 2 cargo optimization rigs.


I now remember what I was thinking about when I thought of having to do many trips in my Coercer that made me shell out for a Noctis: drone poo. But those days are gone forever, I guess.
Kalli Brixzat
#11 - 2012-05-09 21:32:59 UTC
Salo Aldeland wrote:
Kalli Brixzat wrote:

As for the bit about needing to make multiple trips, that's just not so. Other than the occasional WC, X Extravaganza and maybe The Blockade, a ghetto salvage dessie can pretty much handle any mission. Especially a Catalyst w/ 1 or 2 cargo optimization rigs.


I now remember what I was thinking about when I thought of having to do many trips in my Coercer that made me shell out for a Noctis: drone poo. But those days are gone forever, I guess.


Ah...yes..I concede that fully. Drone poo needed to be done with multiple trips in a dessie. And, yes...those days are overCry
For'um Falt
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-05-09 23:58:14 UTC
It's not a ship, it's the ability to multibox and have an alt account. Without that you will most likely be spending more time going back and forth than actually running missions, i.e. your profits may actually be lower and if you loot/salvage/sell.

And if you have that dediciated alt, train it to destroyer/Noctis/Orca in that order. You will want it for level 4s anyway so better to start now.

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Rhanna Khurin
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-05-10 04:37:19 UTC
This i use to salvage is also the ship i do my missions in.

The dominix! trudge around the place killing and salvaging as you go,
Kalli Brixzat
#14 - 2012-05-10 04:39:05 UTC
For'um Falt wrote:
It's not a ship, it's the ability to multibox and have an alt account. Without that you will most likely be spending more time going back and forth than actually running missions, i.e. your profits may actually be lower and if you loot/salvage/sell.

And if you have that dediciated alt, train it to destroyer/Noctis/Orca in that order. You will want it for level 4s anyway so better to start now.


Meh, not so much. There are definitely certain missions I don't bother looting/salvaging (like pretty much anything vs. Sansha). But, for the most part, my ISK/hour is WAY higher when I full clear and slurp than when I just clear...or blitz. For the record, I am currently working with a single account.
Skorpynekomimi
#15 - 2012-05-10 07:24:20 UTC
Noctis.

Highs:
5x tractor beam, 3x salvager
Mids:
Sensor booster, cruiser mwd.
Lows:
Cargo expanders.

Works fine. A bit pricy, but it works great.

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Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-05-10 13:29:50 UTC
Salvage drones (soon) Lol

Bye bye marauders Lol
Zyress
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-05-10 16:45:39 UTC
Noctis is of course best but since you are new, if you are any race but Caldari I would suggest the destroyer, for Caldari a Kestrel has half the highs of the Destroyer but can be fit to have more cargo space and its faster.
Saia Tae Arragosa
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-05-10 17:05:27 UTC
Since destroyers aren't much good outside of blob warfare and getting blown up or ganking, they are most only good for salvaging. You can easily fit salvagers and tractors in their high slots and go to town.
Zyress
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-05-10 17:16:50 UTC
I've been doing lvl 1's for the matari for about the past 3 months they are the last empire faction I can't do lvl 4's for and it bothers me. I was in the habit of looting everything as I went and haven't been worrying about salvage as I tried to rush through missions. I usually just reprocess everything and sell all the minerals after 16 missions while I'm waiting for the storyline mission to come in. With the new changes to loot drops and drone poo my 16 mission mineral pile has dwindled from typically between 1 -3 million isk to a little over 100,000 isk. Its really not worth it anymore to loot at this level, its been a while since I've done a level 4 so I'm not sure about that. Has the salvage changed much,? In the days of yore I made about as much or more in loot and salvage as I made in mission rewards and bounties on a level 4. Mission rewards were typically the smallest part.
Darthewok
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-05-10 17:50:54 UTC
Best salvage ships (in order):
1. Noctis
2. Catalyst or Hurricane (with tractors, salvagers, cargo lowslots and rigs)

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