Missions & Complexes

Ok, yep it's another rant. Im fairly new to this game, can fly a BC ok. Tried missioning/mining, found them boring. Exploration took my fancy, i gave it a try and I quite enjoy it. Unfortunaly, what really bakes my noodle is when i clear a complex and some dude warps in with a tengu, pops the last rat while i have full agro, takes loot and leaves. Ive also been 90% into killing the last npc and the same thing happened, last hit > loot > warp out.

I mean seriously, eve pve isn't all that fun without me having to deal with this as well. Sometimes it could take me 1-2 hrs to actually find a decent compex and 15-45 mins to run it. Im doing it to finance my eve play not to have a blast so is a waste of my prescious time. Im sure i'll get plenty of people telling me to harden up but its certianly not my idea of fun when i cant do a thing about it. In low/null sec i totally understand, if you have the balls to take your tengu there i think you deserve to be able to force me out of a complex.

1. find some less occupied systems via ingame map or evemaps.dotlan.net. Check jumps, or rats killed
2. dont worry to visit full range of hisec systems 1.0 - 0.5
3. be faster with better ship
4. stop QQing this is EVE ^^

Living in hisec is the most common cause of frustration and negative feelings. You need to deal with clueless bears, or pathetic gankers there, and get practically nothing in exchange.

Move out, and take your success and justice in your own hands. Also, much less competition

(If you really have to stay there for some strange reason, train for a dual-prop Ishtar, and you will win the Tengus)

This is a pvp game so you have to expect player competition in nearly all areas of the game and hisec competition is the only thing making hisec exploration exciting

If you don't like competition then just move to lowsec. You will have to deal with some pirates from time to time but it might be better for you ( just try it ).

Another solution : use more appropriate ship for this. Any T3 can work in hisec just fine (not just the Tengu). Like Roime suggested - Dual prop Ishtar is a good choice ( and a good way to **** with those Tengu pilots, who want to steal your loot ).

Flying in a less crowded systems can also help. Just look at the world map-->Active Pilots that should give you a hint where to look.

But the best thing you can actually do is this : Get out of hisec nao
Seriously mate it is much better ( for most activities - exploration included ) and it's not that bad as some people say.

OK, kind of a pet peeve of mine. Poster says he's new, and is OK at flying a BC. You counter with "fly a T3" and "dual prop Ishtar". This isn't useful advice considering training times and money involved. You had good points, but not exactly helpful for an obviously newer player.

I have to say though that going to low sec IS great advice. The tricks you will learn dodging pierats will end up coming in handy if you ever get into more PVP or head to null or w-space.

Perfectly sound advice actually.

Buy plex, sell plex for isk. Buy character with skills. Buy appropriate ship. It works and believe it or not, people do this.

Or you'll end up having friendly races.

In the high sec string behind Aunenen I made a friend who mainly hangs out there. One day I came across a system with 2x GSO and a Gurista Watch. We ended up racing all 3 of them, starting with the Watch.

It was a good time and we were both pretty amicable about it.

This happened to me in high-sec the other day and it was super annoying. Will kill eventually.

competition is sad? ok



That's mean.

Yeah, you are right if i want to fly a t3 it would be a long train for me. Im an armor tanked drone user so trying to get into a tengu means i will have to train shields and missiles. It seems all t3's aren't equal, so its kind of tengu or its nothing for this purpose. I am going for the ishtar though so in a few months things will improve lol.




Would love to except a) he would kick my ass, b) its in high sec lol. I mark all of these guys red with a note attatched but the reality is i prob wont ever get the chance.



Yes in this case. Its uneven competition, you kill the rats then some else with a bigger ship and 5x sp gets he reward. When youve been exploring for a week and found nada, and this happens, it basically wipes away all of your profit lol and to be honest wipes away my desire to play eve. Perhaps we should make it that its a race for mission rewards too? I mean "this is eve" and it houses some of the biggest badasses around.



Fair enough, its just not in my nature to do this.

Moving to low sec is the best idea. Ive kind of tried and i cant yet tank the sites there sufficiently. Would be sitting there for 2 hours waiting to get ganked. Last time i was there someone pretty much one shot my vexor but i didn't even know i had to turn my hardners on lol. At least if a tengu does this in low sec i can round up some friends and he can become the new shiny.