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Jump Drives, breaking Eve for years
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Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2012-05-09 04:54:50 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Xython wrote:
Polly Oxford wrote:
ITT high sec dwellers comment on a mechanic they don't understand.


+1. This is as bad as the drooling pubbies on CSM5 that thought removing Jump Bridges would be a bright idea.


Baby need his Cyno blankie? Nasty pubbies scare baby without a 1000 ship blob to bail his baby ass out anywhere in low sec?


What's that? You want to do what to my genitals? Dear lord man, calm yourself. This is a family friendly forum!
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#102 - 2012-05-09 04:55:09 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Kieron VonDeux wrote:
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
The Goons have really become what they hated.

Classic. Big smile


This doesn't make sense.


He means we were always BoB.


Is there any real PvP player that could tolerate a moron with a Titan sitting all alone in a system for days on end and still being almost unkillable cause "CYNO! CYNO!"

Cause that's what he was doing. Sitting totally exposed but for the CYNO blankie that keeps him warm no matter how fail his fit, no matter how predictable his patterns, no matter how stupid his gameplay, and no matter that he was jumped by 100+ guys at once.

Any other game, ANY other game he would have insta-splatted. And nobody would think anything of it except, like, 100 guys was way over-kill dude.


The guy was sure lucky his friends were around to cyno to him. Was it a subcap fleet or a cap fleet?

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#103 - 2012-05-09 04:55:42 UTC
Xython wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Xython wrote:
Polly Oxford wrote:
ITT high sec dwellers comment on a mechanic they don't understand.


+1. This is as bad as the drooling pubbies on CSM5 that thought removing Jump Bridges would be a bright idea.


Baby need his Cyno blankie? Nasty pubbies scare baby without a 1000 ship blob to bail his baby ass out anywhere in low sec?


What's that? You want to do what to my genitals? Dear lord man, calm yourself. This is a family friendly forum!



He wants your baby ass. I think our friend Jessie-A here needs to have a seat over there.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#104 - 2012-05-09 04:56:07 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Xython wrote:
Polly Oxford wrote:
ITT high sec dwellers comment on a mechanic they don't understand.


+1. This is as bad as the drooling pubbies on CSM5 that thought removing Jump Bridges would be a bright idea.


Baby need his Cyno blankie? Nasty pubbies scare baby without a 1000 ship blob to bail his baby ass out anywhere in low sec?

Why didn't we travel as a 1000 ship blob?

Oh right. Traffic control and TiDi.


ooooo.... you travel in +100 ship blobs not +1000 ship blobs. I am SOOOOO corrected and SOOOOO not caring.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#105 - 2012-05-09 04:56:25 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Kieron VonDeux wrote:
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
The Goons have really become what they hated.

Classic. Big smile


This doesn't make sense.


He means we were always BoB.


Is there any real PvP player that could tolerate a moron with a Titan sitting all alone in a system for days on end and still being almost unkillable cause "CYNO! CYNO!"

Cause that's what he was doing. Sitting totally exposed but for the CYNO blankie that keeps him warm no matter how fail his fit, no matter how predictable his patterns, no matter how stupid his gameplay, and no matter that he was jumped by 100+ guys at once.

Any other game, ANY other game he would have insta-splatted. And nobody would think anything of it except, like, 100 guys was way over-kill dude.


The guy was sure lucky his friends were around to cyno to him. Was it a subcap fleet or a cap fleet?

Sounds like it was a trap. You did mean it was a 100+ supercapital fleet, right?

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#106 - 2012-05-09 04:57:40 UTC
Jump drives are not a problem. The fact that any ship can light a cyno is.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#107 - 2012-05-09 04:58:56 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Xython wrote:
Polly Oxford wrote:
ITT high sec dwellers comment on a mechanic they don't understand.


+1. This is as bad as the drooling pubbies on CSM5 that thought removing Jump Bridges would be a bright idea.


Baby need his Cyno blankie? Nasty pubbies scare baby without a 1000 ship blob to bail his baby ass out anywhere in low sec?

Why didn't we travel as a 1000 ship blob?

Oh right. Traffic control and TiDi.


ooooo.... you travel in +100 ship blobs not +1000 ship blobs. I am SOOOOO corrected and SOOOOO not caring.


And since you're a highsec sockpuppet alt from some chickenshit too cowardly to post under your main, you're also SOOOO Irrelevant.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#108 - 2012-05-09 04:59:03 UTC
also lol you think that we have some kind of network of strategically placed titans to get a 1000 man fleet anywhere on the map within 10 minutes

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#109 - 2012-05-09 05:00:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Jessie-A Tassik
Lapine Davion wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Kieron VonDeux wrote:
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
The Goons have really become what they hated.

Classic. Big smile


This doesn't make sense.


He means we were always BoB.


Is there any real PvP player that could tolerate a moron with a Titan sitting all alone in a system for days on end and still being almost unkillable cause "CYNO! CYNO!"

Cause that's what he was doing. Sitting totally exposed but for the CYNO blankie that keeps him warm no matter how fail his fit, no matter how predictable his patterns, no matter how stupid his gameplay, and no matter that he was jumped by 100+ guys at once.

Any other game, ANY other game he would have insta-splatted. And nobody would think anything of it except, like, 100 guys was way over-kill dude.


The guy was sure lucky his friends were around to cyno to him. Was it a subcap fleet or a cap fleet?


No he wasn't. It takes less than 11 jumps to cross the entirety of Eve. Since this guy was in low-sec that cuts about 4 jumps off the longest amount.. In practice, I doubt his buddies were ever more than two jumps from reaching him. Because two jumps is a huge, huge distance. It covers more than 10% of the entirety of Eve. In area. As in 10% of all of Eves star systems. Near the middle of the map, three jumps can reach about a third of all the star systems in Eve.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#110 - 2012-05-09 05:02:40 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:


No he wasn't. It takes less than 11 jumps to cross the entirety of Eve. Since this guy was in low-sec that cuts about 4 jumps off the longest amount.. In practice, I doubt his buddies were ever more than two jumps from reaching him. Because two jumps is a huge, huge distance. It covers more than 10% of the entirety of Eve. In area. As in 10% of all of Eves star systems. Near the middle of the map, three jumps can reach about a third of all the star systems in Eve.


Again, was it a subcap fleet or a capfleet?

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#111 - 2012-05-09 05:02:45 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
No he wasn't. It takes less than 11 jumps to cross the entirety of Eve. Since this guy was in low-sec that cuts about 4 jumps off the longest amount.. In practice, I doubt his buddies were ever more than two jumps from reaching him. Because two jumps is a huge, huge distance.


Yes, assuming you have 11 cyno alts in place across... No wait, I don't even think it works then, because you'd have to move AROUND highsec.

Feel free to prove me wrong via a map of cyno destinations from point A to point B. Ideally the path should be circular, heading back to point A (we will then take the total number of jumps / 2 to calculate the distance "across" EVE). Oh, and it should have a drawing of a little sailboat on it.

I like sailboats.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#112 - 2012-05-09 05:03:16 UTC
Andski wrote:
also lol you think that we have some kind of network of strategically placed titans to get a 1000 man fleet anywhere on the map within 10 minutes


Well, what else would we be doing with our secret fleet of Titans?

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#113 - 2012-05-09 05:06:37 UTC
Xython wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
No he wasn't. It takes less than 11 jumps to cross the entirety of Eve. Since this guy was in low-sec that cuts about 4 jumps off the longest amount.. In practice, I doubt his buddies were ever more than two jumps from reaching him. Because two jumps is a huge, huge distance.


Yes, assuming you have 11 cyno alts in place across... No wait, I don't even think it works then, because you'd have to move AROUND highsec.

Feel free to prove me wrong via a map of cyno destinations from point A to point B. Ideally the path should be circular, heading back to point A (we will then take the total number of jumps / 2 to calculate the distance "across" EVE). Oh, and it should have a drawing of a little sailboat on it.

I like sailboats.


You don't care about facts. You can't be convinced of anything that is against your own interest.

Thus I am saved the time wasting of trying to convince you of anything.
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#114 - 2012-05-09 05:09:53 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:


No he wasn't. It takes less than 11 jumps to cross the entirety of Eve. Since this guy was in low-sec that cuts about 4 jumps off the longest amount.. In practice, I doubt his buddies were ever more than two jumps from reaching him. Because two jumps is a huge, huge distance. It covers more than 10% of the entirety of Eve. In area. As in 10% of all of Eves star systems. Near the middle of the map, three jumps can reach about a third of all the star systems in Eve.


Again, was it a subcap fleet or a capfleet?


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12761765

Killmail is extremely buggy but I see EIGHT PL titans just glancing at it.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#115 - 2012-05-09 05:10:58 UTC
okay try moving a carrier those 11 jumps

don't ask me to bring you fuel though

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#116 - 2012-05-09 05:11:18 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Xython wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
No he wasn't. It takes less than 11 jumps to cross the entirety of Eve. Since this guy was in low-sec that cuts about 4 jumps off the longest amount.. In practice, I doubt his buddies were ever more than two jumps from reaching him. Because two jumps is a huge, huge distance.


Yes, assuming you have 11 cyno alts in place across... No wait, I don't even think it works then, because you'd have to move AROUND highsec.

Feel free to prove me wrong via a map of cyno destinations from point A to point B. Ideally the path should be circular, heading back to point A (we will then take the total number of jumps / 2 to calculate the distance "across" EVE). Oh, and it should have a drawing of a little sailboat on it.

I like sailboats.


You don't care about facts. You can't be convinced of anything that is against your own interest.

Thus I am saved the time wasting of trying to convince you of anything.


No, he's right, you have to go around highsec. So it can't be 11 jumps from one end to the other.

Also, I see a defense you seem to use frequently. When someone actually brings out facts against your argument you just throw your hands up and accuse that person of not wanting to use facts, or not wanting to see your side of the argument, or some other similar thing.

But see, this kind of reasoning goes against what you yourself are saying against that person. In fact, you are projecting your own actions against this other person who is only trying to show you how you are mistaken.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#117 - 2012-05-09 05:13:07 UTC
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:


No he wasn't. It takes less than 11 jumps to cross the entirety of Eve. Since this guy was in low-sec that cuts about 4 jumps off the longest amount.. In practice, I doubt his buddies were ever more than two jumps from reaching him. Because two jumps is a huge, huge distance. It covers more than 10% of the entirety of Eve. In area. As in 10% of all of Eves star systems. Near the middle of the map, three jumps can reach about a third of all the star systems in Eve.


Again, was it a subcap fleet or a capfleet?


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12761765

Killmail is extremely buggy but I see EIGHT PL titans just glancing at it.


Given that it lists PL players as both Hostile and friendly, I really don't think that killmail can be brought in as evidence. But i did see quite a few caps that were not associated with PL on there, too.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#118 - 2012-05-09 05:13:08 UTC
also it is 11 jumps

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/jump/Nyx,554/QYZM-W:D4-2XN

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#119 - 2012-05-09 05:16:34 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Xython wrote:
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
No he wasn't. It takes less than 11 jumps to cross the entirety of Eve. Since this guy was in low-sec that cuts about 4 jumps off the longest amount.. In practice, I doubt his buddies were ever more than two jumps from reaching him. Because two jumps is a huge, huge distance.


Yes, assuming you have 11 cyno alts in place across... No wait, I don't even think it works then, because you'd have to move AROUND highsec.

Feel free to prove me wrong via a map of cyno destinations from point A to point B. Ideally the path should be circular, heading back to point A (we will then take the total number of jumps / 2 to calculate the distance "across" EVE). Oh, and it should have a drawing of a little sailboat on it.

I like sailboats.


You don't care about facts. You can't be convinced of anything that is against your own interest.

Thus I am saved the time wasting of trying to convince you of anything.


No, he's right, you have to go around highsec. So it can't be 11 jumps from one end to the other.

Also, I see a defense you seem to use frequently. When someone actually brings out facts against your argument you just throw your hands up and accuse that person of not wanting to use facts, or not wanting to see your side of the argument, or some other similar thing.

But see, this kind of reasoning goes against what you yourself are saying against that person. In fact, you are projecting your own actions against this other person who is only trying to show you how you are mistaken.


No. I know his is a liar and will not apologize for being wrong.

Here you go, person:

http://www.eve-icsc.com/jumptools/jumpplanner.php?ship=Archon&jdc=5&jfc=5&jf=0&fromsystem=QYZM-W&waypoints0=C-PEWN&waypoints1=
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#120 - 2012-05-09 05:18:48 UTC
that jump planner is disgusting

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar