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CCP - no really...when is mining going to be a good profession again?

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Saia Tae Arragosa
Doomheim
#121 - 2012-05-09 03:19:35 UTC
Shian Yang wrote:


Greetings capsuleer Arragossa,

I only show disdain for stupidity, self-aggrandised politics and incessant whining. Anything else will get the love and attention it truely deserves.

As I indicated earlier, miners are the bedrock upon which my Rifter is built. You have my appreciation for the mundane activities you engage in.

If you re-read some of it you will see I suggested cooperative operations, taking the opportunity to fly escort for other miners on a rotational basis and other mechanisms whereby you as the capsuleer can increase your enjoyment in the most mundane of activities. Well, most mundane shy of managing a planetary colony. The volume of complaints a colonist generates is only outstripped by the amount of excrement they leave behind.

This will give you pre-emptive engagement while CCP thinks through the proposals that are made in Features and Ideas and engage with the participating and cooperative members of the CSM to engage with the other capsuleers.

Think of it.

You could gather a group of miners, gang fit and venture in the more profitable regions of space. A few to fly escort and you will be running lightning mining raids across hostile territory, thieving the minerals from the very scum that has tried to shut down mining across New Eden.

Is this not a noble task? Is it not engaging and entertaining? And you can do that now.

Regards,

Shian Yang



Dearest darling capsuleer;

Not to be so anal...but truely is spelled truly. I will not address the other bad aspects of your spelling of other words in your return correspondents. For this is not a discussion about spelling. I will however address your thought that I must participate in an aspect of this game that involves using armed vessels. Some of us that live in EVE space are not the aggressive type and would rather do our jobs in peace. I as a miner eek out a meager living in this cold harsh world that is EVE, despite threat of suicide gankers. Is that not enough of a sacrifice as a non-combative person? Why would I wish to endure unnecessary stress by putting myself, and my corp mates, in harms way by actively seeking to provoke an attack by people I do not wish to harm me or bring harm to them? As I miner I am a pacifist.

Just as the great miners of old that sailed on such vessels as the grand Nostromo. We miners tend to only resort to violence when put into extraordinary circumstances that we deem detrimental to the lives of our friends, mates, and cats - even then we prefer to run when we can - but if we must we prefer to take off and nuke said aggressors from orbit. Unfortunately in the current time and place we live in we do not have the colonial marines to come to our aid. Not that they were much help mind you, but they did have the means to dispatch of an aggressor - though they were not intelligent enough to use it at the time until their ranks were down to two. Typical problem people of violence tend to have is less brain cells than others. Be that as it may, and back on the topic at hand, I am not the violent type of person, as is the case of most miners, we're peaceful people and we prefer to extrapolate our living by finding and extricating the much valued ore that is needed in the many things that a society needs in order to sustain itself.

If you wish to pursue an avenue of violence and destruction - please continue to do so. I, on the other hand, will lovingly continue to pursue a non-aggressive form of endeavor.

Regards and with all sincerity,

Saia Tae Arragossa
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#122 - 2012-05-09 03:33:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Lapine Davion
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:

Dearest darling capsuleer;

Not to be so anal...but truely is spelled truly. I will not address the other bad aspects of your spelling of other words in your return correspondents. For this is not a discussion about spelling. I will however address your thought that I must participate in an aspect of this game that involves using armed vessels. Some of us that live in EVE space are not the aggressive type and would rather do our jobs in peace. I as a miner eek out a meager living in this cold harsh world that is EVE, despite threat of suicide gankers. Is that not enough of a sacrifice as a non-combative person? Why would I wish to endure unnecessary stress by putting myself, and my corp mates, in harms way by actively seeking to provoke an attack by people I do not wish to harm me or bring harm to them? As I miner I am a pacifist.

Just as the great miners of old that sailed on such vessels as the grand Nostromo. We miners tend to only resort to violence when put into extraordinary circumstances that we deem detrimental to the lives of our friends, mates, and cats - even then we prefer to run when we can - but if we must we prefer to take off and nuke said aggressors from orbit. Unfortunately in the current time and place we live in we do not have the colonial marines to come to our aid. Not that they were much help mind you, but they did have the means to dispatch of an aggressor - though they were not intelligent enough to use it at the time until their ranks were down to two. Typical problem people of violence tend to have is less brain cells than others. Be that as it may, and back on the topic at hand, I am not the violent type of person, as is the case of most miners, we're peaceful people and we prefer to extrapolate our living by finding and extricating the much valued ore that is needed in the many things that a society needs in order to sustain itself.

If you wish to pursue an avenue of violence and destruction - please continue to do so. I, on the other hand, will lovingly continue to pursue a non-aggressive form of endeavor.

Regards and with all sincerity,

Saia Tae Arragossa


Ladies and gentlemen, this is the definition of "risk-averse player"

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Saia Tae Arragosa
Doomheim
#123 - 2012-05-09 03:40:39 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:

Dearest darling capsuleer;

Not to be so anal...but truely is spelled truly. I will not address the other bad aspects of your spelling of other words in your return correspondents. For this is not a discussion about spelling. I will however address your thought that I must participate in an aspect of this game that involves using armed vessels. Some of us that live in EVE space are not the aggressive type and would rather do our jobs in peace. I as a miner eek out a meager living in this cold harsh world that is EVE, despite threat of suicide gankers. Is that not enough of a sacrifice as a non-combative person? Why would I wish to endure unnecessary stress by putting myself, and my corp mates, in harms way by actively seeking to provoke an attack by people I do not wish to harm me or bring harm to them? As I miner I am a pacifist.

Just as the great miners of old that sailed on such vessels as the grand Nostromo. We miners tend to only resort to violence when put into extraordinary circumstances that we deem detrimental to the lives of our friends, mates, and cats - even then we prefer to run when we can - but if we must we prefer to take off and nuke said aggressors from orbit. Unfortunately in the current time and place we live in we do not have the colonial marines to come to our aid. Not that they were much help mind you, but they did have the means to dispatch of an aggressor - though they were not intelligent enough to use it at the time until their ranks were down to two. Typical problem people of violence tend to have is less brain cells than others. Be that as it may, and back on the topic at hand, I am not the violent type of person, as is the case of most miners, we're peaceful people and we prefer to extrapolate our living by finding and extricating the much valued ore that is needed in the many things that a society needs in order to sustain itself.

If you wish to pursue an avenue of violence and destruction - please continue to do so. I, on the other hand, will lovingly continue to pursue a non-aggressive form of endeavor.

Regards and with all sincerity,

Saia Tae Arragossa


Ladies and gentlemen, this is the definition of "risk-averse player"


Very much so. I wish to mine in peace. Why would I wish to bring harm to others? Space is a huge place. There is room for all - not just a chosen few or those that only wish to bring death and destruction to it. Buy a flower today. You need it I think.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#124 - 2012-05-09 03:46:54 UTC
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:

Dearest darling capsuleer;

Not to be so anal...but truely is spelled truly. I will not address the other bad aspects of your spelling of other words in your return correspondents. For this is not a discussion about spelling. I will however address your thought that I must participate in an aspect of this game that involves using armed vessels. Some of us that live in EVE space are not the aggressive type and would rather do our jobs in peace. I as a miner eek out a meager living in this cold harsh world that is EVE, despite threat of suicide gankers. Is that not enough of a sacrifice as a non-combative person? Why would I wish to endure unnecessary stress by putting myself, and my corp mates, in harms way by actively seeking to provoke an attack by people I do not wish to harm me or bring harm to them? As I miner I am a pacifist.

Just as the great miners of old that sailed on such vessels as the grand Nostromo. We miners tend to only resort to violence when put into extraordinary circumstances that we deem detrimental to the lives of our friends, mates, and cats - even then we prefer to run when we can - but if we must we prefer to take off and nuke said aggressors from orbit. Unfortunately in the current time and place we live in we do not have the colonial marines to come to our aid. Not that they were much help mind you, but they did have the means to dispatch of an aggressor - though they were not intelligent enough to use it at the time until their ranks were down to two. Typical problem people of violence tend to have is less brain cells than others. Be that as it may, and back on the topic at hand, I am not the violent type of person, as is the case of most miners, we're peaceful people and we prefer to extrapolate our living by finding and extricating the much valued ore that is needed in the many things that a society needs in order to sustain itself.

If you wish to pursue an avenue of violence and destruction - please continue to do so. I, on the other hand, will lovingly continue to pursue a non-aggressive form of endeavor.

Regards and with all sincerity,

Saia Tae Arragossa


Ladies and gentlemen, this is the definition of "risk-averse player"


Very much so. I wish to mine in peace. Why would I wish to bring harm to others? Space is a huge place. There is room for all - not just a chosen few or those that only wish to bring death and destruction to it. Buy a flower today. You need it I think.


There sure is room for everyone, and your wreck and your frozen corpse, too!

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#125 - 2012-05-09 03:51:00 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
There sure is room for everyone, and your wreck and your frozen corpse, too!

Multiple frozen corpses, even..

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#126 - 2012-05-09 03:54:06 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
There sure is room for everyone, and your wreck and your frozen corpse, too!

Multiple frozen corpses, even..


Exactly! There is room for every body!

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#127 - 2012-05-09 04:01:22 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
There sure is room for everyone, and your wreck and your frozen corpse, too!

Multiple frozen corpses, even..


Exactly! There is room for every body!

Every day.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

Saia Tae Arragosa
Doomheim
#128 - 2012-05-09 04:02:50 UTC
For some of you, this must really boil your turnips. I mean a player that participates in an aspect of the game you despise. I realize that your aggression is part of your knuckle dragging, mouth breathing, genetic make-up, but I have to wonder if maybe someone hasn't recently flavored your breakfast cereal with yellow #1.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#129 - 2012-05-09 04:04:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Lapine Davion
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
For some of you, this must really boil your turnips. I mean a player that participates in an aspect of the game you despise. I realize that your aggression is part of your knuckle dragging, mouth breathing, genetic make-up, but I have to wonder if maybe someone hasn't recently flavored your breakfast cereal with yellow #1.


Haha, it really doesn't **** us off. In fact, it makes us happy that you don't want to shoot back. It just makes things so much simpler.

Fun fact: I mine in nullsec and don't do all that much shooting of people. It doesn't upset my alliance bros, but they do give me **** about it.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#130 - 2012-05-09 04:08:34 UTC
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:


Very much so. I wish to mine in peace. Why would I wish to bring harm to others? Space is a huge place. There is room for all - not just a chosen few or those that only wish to bring death and destruction to it. Buy a flower today. You need it I think.


Serious question: If you are completely against taking any chances in the game, other than from gankers, because that would happen anywhere, why do you think you deserve anything but the smallest fraction of an income?

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#131 - 2012-05-09 04:09:29 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
For some of you, this must really boil your turnips. I mean a player that participates in an aspect of the game you despise. I realize that your aggression is part of your knuckle dragging, mouth breathing, genetic make-up, but I have to wonder if maybe someone hasn't recently flavored your breakfast cereal with yellow #1.


Haha, it really doesn't **** us off. In fact, it makes us happy that you don't want to shoot back. It just makes things so much simpler.

Fun fact: I mine in nullsec and don't do all that much shooting of people. It doesn't upset my alliance bros, but they do give me **** about it.

You mean you don't think it's great to join Boat ops to shoot POS?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#132 - 2012-05-09 04:13:10 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
For some of you, this must really boil your turnips. I mean a player that participates in an aspect of the game you despise. I realize that your aggression is part of your knuckle dragging, mouth breathing, genetic make-up, but I have to wonder if maybe someone hasn't recently flavored your breakfast cereal with yellow #1.


Haha, it really doesn't **** us off. In fact, it makes us happy that you don't want to shoot back. It just makes things so much simpler.

Fun fact: I mine in nullsec and don't do all that much shooting of people. It doesn't upset my alliance bros, but they do give me **** about it.

You mean you don't think it's great to join Boat ops to shoot POS?


Maybe if I were drunk or otherwise in an altered state of consciousness.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Saia Tae Arragosa
Doomheim
#133 - 2012-05-09 04:13:19 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:


Very much so. I wish to mine in peace. Why would I wish to bring harm to others? Space is a huge place. There is room for all - not just a chosen few or those that only wish to bring death and destruction to it. Buy a flower today. You need it I think.


Serious question: If you are completely against taking any chances in the game, other than from gankers, because that would happen anywhere, why do you think you deserve anything but the smallest fraction of an income?


What you think this is about ISK?

This is about making an aspect of the game more interesting and less a coma inducing activity. I have not once said anything regarding the fact that mining is one of the least ISK producing professions in game. It is far more lucrative to participate in any number of other forms of activity in this game to make ISK. No this is not about making ISK. It is about making a profession in this game more interactive and engaging.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#134 - 2012-05-09 04:14:05 UTC
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:


Very much so. I wish to mine in peace. Why would I wish to bring harm to others? Space is a huge place. There is room for all - not just a chosen few or those that only wish to bring death and destruction to it. Buy a flower today. You need it I think.


Serious question: If you are completely against taking any chances in the game, other than from gankers, because that would happen anywhere, why do you think you deserve anything but the smallest fraction of an income?


What you think this is about ISK?

This is about making an aspect of the game more interesting and less a coma inducing activity. I have not once said anything regarding the fact that mining is one of the least ISK producing professions in game. It is far more lucrative to participate in any number of other forms of activity in this game to make ISK. No this is not about making ISK. It is about making a profession in this game more interactive and engaging.


Isn't Hulkageddon engaging enough for you? You've posted so many threads about it already.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Saia Tae Arragosa
Doomheim
#135 - 2012-05-09 04:16:15 UTC
I can see we're on totally different pages of a book. In fact I think you're reading a whole different volume. Maybe a little time off might be in order. :)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#136 - 2012-05-09 04:17:39 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
You mean you don't think it's great to join Boat ops to shoot POS?

Maybe if I were drunk or otherwise in an altered state of consciousness.

Sounds perfect.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#137 - 2012-05-09 04:18:30 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
This is about making an aspect of the game more interesting and less a coma inducing activity. I have not once said anything regarding the fact that mining is one of the least ISK producing professions in game. It is far more lucrative to participate in any number of other forms of activity in this game to make ISK. No this is not about making ISK. It is about making a profession in this game more interactive and engaging.

Isn't Hulkageddon engaging enough for you? You've posted so many threads about it already.

I admit I tried mining. More isk per hour would be great (I pvp for fun though - shooting POS is great!)

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#138 - 2012-05-09 04:19:47 UTC
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
I can see we're on totally different pages of a book. In fact I think you're reading a whole different volume. Maybe a little time off might be in order. :)


In a little more than a day my accounts will unsub until I can afford to play again. So you'll be able to shitpost all you like.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#139 - 2012-05-09 04:20:25 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
This is about making an aspect of the game more interesting and less a coma inducing activity. I have not once said anything regarding the fact that mining is one of the least ISK producing professions in game. It is far more lucrative to participate in any number of other forms of activity in this game to make ISK. No this is not about making ISK. It is about making a profession in this game more interactive and engaging.

Isn't Hulkageddon engaging enough for you? You've posted so many threads about it already.

I admit I tried mining. More isk per hour would be great (I pvp for fun though - shooting POS is great!)


Everyone in Goonfleet used to mine, back when it actually made money. Mittani even talked about being proud of owning a Hulk.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#140 - 2012-05-09 04:24:35 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
This is about making an aspect of the game more interesting and less a coma inducing activity. I have not once said anything regarding the fact that mining is one of the least ISK producing professions in game. It is far more lucrative to participate in any number of other forms of activity in this game to make ISK. No this is not about making ISK. It is about making a profession in this game more interactive and engaging.

Isn't Hulkageddon engaging enough for you? You've posted so many threads about it already.

I admit I tried mining. More isk per hour would be great (I pvp for fun though - shooting POS is great!)


Everyone in Goonfleet used to mine, back when it actually made money. Mittani even talked about being proud of owning a Hulk.

Not going until I have a few hulks. Will take a bit longer to make my own bonus-giver though. But then I can give bonuses to all the non-cherry pickers X

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?