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Cruise missle question from a returning noob
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Kalli Brixzat
#21 - 2012-05-09 06:31:37 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:


Thing is, it's still a Raven. They just aren't great ships these days.


They're fine for their intended purpose. Cheap L4 mission ships. Full damage selection, great range, solid tank. The end. Best BS in the game? Certainly not, but that's not what you expect with an entry level BS.
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-05-09 06:48:55 UTC
Buy a Minmatar Faction TP, they aren't that expencive close to 30 million.

Oh and on the SNI passive tank, no but it's possible to perma boost it and remain cap stable, not the most efficient set up but it's doable.
Otrebla Utrigas
Iberians
#23 - 2012-05-09 09:24:04 UTC
If you have trouble with small things, try a scorpion Navy issue. You will have enough mids for tank and painters, so with the rigor and flares you can two or three shoot AF and cruisers. Against big things you will lose a bit of DPS in comparison with the CNR, but against smaller things you will have no problems

Also the SNI is half the price of the CNR
Kalli Brixzat
#24 - 2012-05-09 17:50:43 UTC
Otrebla Utrigas wrote:
If you have trouble with small things, try a scorpion Navy issue. You will have enough mids for tank and painters, so with the rigor and flares you can two or three shoot AF and cruisers. Against big things you will lose a bit of DPS in comparison with the CNR, but against smaller things you will have no problems

Also the SNI is half the price of the CNR


Maybe not quite half the price, but not too far off. SNI is probably 325-350M rigged (unfitted)...CNR is probably 550-600 rigged (unfitted). So, give or take 60-65% of the price of a CNR.

SNI has a sick tank, and room for TP's to make up for a portion of the cost of having 1 less launcher. CNR will give you both better deeps, better range and faster damage application (where things like that matter).

All in all, a properly fit CNR will NEVER have issues in L4 missions. Thus, go for the extra DPS and get that. If you have any business flying either, you'll never need the kind of tank an SNI offers...and certainly not at the expense of damage.
Cinc
Apathetic Lamenters of Everything
#25 - 2012-05-10 13:41:42 UTC
K. I've chanced to an active tank with a painter and changed to 2x rigors and a ccc. This made a HUGE difference.

We drew angel extravaganza and I was cutting through smaller targets really well when compared to the other day. The shield booster and amp along with my hardeners were plenty to keep my shields healthy.

Thx again everyone for your help.
Otrebla Utrigas
Iberians
#26 - 2012-05-10 14:44:59 UTC
Kalli Brixzat wrote:
Otrebla Utrigas wrote:
If you have trouble with small things, try a scorpion Navy issue. You will have enough mids for tank and painters, so with the rigor and flares you can two or three shoot AF and cruisers. Against big things you will lose a bit of DPS in comparison with the CNR, but against smaller things you will have no problems

Also the SNI is half the price of the CNR


Maybe not quite half the price, but not too far off. SNI is probably 325-350M rigged (unfitted)...CNR is probably 550-600 rigged (unfitted). So, give or take 60-65% of the price of a CNR.

SNI has a sick tank, and room for TP's to make up for a portion of the cost of having 1 less launcher. CNR will give you both better deeps, better range and faster damage application (where things like that matter).

All in all, a properly fit CNR will NEVER have issues in L4 missions. Thus, go for the extra DPS and get that. If you have any business flying either, you'll never need the kind of tank an SNI offers...and certainly not at the expense of damage.

But the SNI it is much cheaper!!

PS: Sorry, i'm a SNI fanboi :D
Gorki Andropov
I Dn't Knw Wht You Wnt Bt I Cn't Gve It Anymre
#27 - 2012-05-11 19:47:24 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
waiting for gorki andropov and his troll raven fit...



Ah Daniel Plain, the lazy peasant who wants everything fed to him directly. So happy to oblige.


My Raven was equipped with the following:

HIGH
06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I
01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1
01 x SALVAGER I

MEDIUM
04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS
01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM
01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER

LOW
01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL
01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I
01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I
02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I

DRONES
02 x WARRIOR I DRONES
03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES

UPGRADES
01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I
01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I
Kalli Brixzat
#28 - 2012-05-12 22:33:52 UTC
Gorki Andropov wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
waiting for gorki andropov and his troll raven fit...



Ah Daniel Plain, the lazy peasant who wants everything fed to him directly. So happy to oblige.


My Raven was equipped with the following:

HIGH
06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I
01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1
01 x SALVAGER I

MEDIUM
04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS
01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM
01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER

LOW
01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL
01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I
01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I
02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I

DRONES
02 x WARRIOR I DRONES
03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES

UPGRADES
01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I
01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I


What, no 800mm plates?
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