Crime & Punishment

I say this knowing full well how many miners are 'casual players' or simply don't read the forums but here is some advice for those that have the gumption to do a little research...

The ultimately smart thing to do would be to do something more profitable, which is pretty much any other activity in New Eden period, but if you insist on mining those asteroids for a living then this is probably worth considering.

If I were a miner I would 'deal' with Hulkageddon in the following ways, not in any particular order.

1. Mine semi afk in a ... (what is it called ... a retriever?) [EDIT: its a Covetor] to reduce lost isk when inevitably ganked

2. Mine semi afk in a battleship. While they can still be ganked, it will cost the baddies way more in ships and you can insure for much closer to your value in hull and if you actually work it out the yield lost compared to a hulk really isnt that different, especially when you factor in the chance of losing your hulk during hulkageddon (or any other time).

3. Mine in gravimetric sites to make them work for their kill and use d-scan to check for probes etc and gtfo if anything suspicious happens.

4. Go mine in low sec and actively check local and start aligning while mining and scan with d-scan and gtfo if needed. Technically its safer than mining high-sec since literally anyone in local is a threat and its a simple tool to use to determine if you are threatened.
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5. Ugh,,, join a null sec alliance/corp that accepts pure industrialists.

I would not...

1. Try to tank my ship. This provides you safety versus a solo ganker but frankly just makes you more juicy for a gang, of which there are plenty about. It gives a false sense of security. Forget about this, it's utterly futile.

2. Try to pull concord into my belt to help me. Borderline exploit and it can be countered and at any rate it wont stop alpha damage anyway.

PROTIP; ECM drones

As a solo ganker currently featuring on the HG5 board, nothing will deter me like a swarm of ec-300's around your hulk.

There, that's my good deed for today, some old lady will be stuck on the side of the road because you need to mine in peace in internet spaceships.
Now don't you dare cry if you still die to a solo-ganker anyway, think of the old lady unable to cross the road so you could have this advice.

The man has a point. With High Sec being just as dangerous as low sec, you may as well mine in low sec. If anything, it'll force you to be more self aware and attentive and you'll reap greater rewards.

PRO TIP- Get out of empire scrubs.

Just to add to this:

- If you can't find any grav sites to mine in highsec, there are usually MUCH better grav sites in lowsec. Either way you'll still have to be scanned down or you'll have to be caught at a gate coming in. The local pirates may have scan ships handy to find you but it's less likely that roaming gangs will. Either way, have scan probes added to your overview settings (under Filters -> Charges) and keep a close watch on d-scan. A good rule of thumb is to just not mine with people in local, but there are plenty of very empty lowsec systems that get very little traffic. The hard part will be getting out the ore you mine. A cloaky hauler or blockade runner would be helpful for this.

- Use an alt to scout the gate/system going into lowsec before jumping through with your slow exhumer.

To get out of empire typically requires one of two choices:

1.) Join a large nullsec bloc and deal with all of the dumb politics and meglomaniac, egotistical shitlords
2.) Try to live in NPC nullsec where all of the failscaded nullsec alliances live or where you have to constantly deal with roaming gangs that come around to nom on said fail alliances. It's just typically not worth it to try to be industrious out in 0.0 if you don't hold sov, and good luck doing that if you aren't a large power bloc. You'll get steamrolled for lulz.

Believe it or not, there are nullsec groups that do not have 'dumb politics and megalomania'; there are several actually, I would suggest browsing the recruitment FORUMS to find these entities and do a bit of researching instead of using that cesspit of an ingame channel, just saying.

Just because YOU couldn't find it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.




There is risk in all of Low-Sec and Null, it can be mitigated by you know, paying attention to the game you happen to be playing at the time. There are also plenty of places in Low-Sec that have practically no active residents, even in NPC Nullsec you can find and carve out your own little area of space.

Its pretty easy, but I guess sitting in Empire space singing 'woe is me' is entirely more enjoyable, who wants an unpredictable gaming experience anyway... BRING ON THE MONOTONY!

Align at 75% speed in your hulk and get an in-corp alt to double web you.
Watch belt for potential hostiles and bug out whenever someone capable of violencing your boat warps in.
It's seriously almost foolproof.

The ganking fools or the mining fools?

When I began to play EvE, I started as a miner. There was nothing like annual Hulkageddons, but still I was scared ****less because my OMG expensive Exhumer could get ganked by a few cheap ships. Back then there was still insurance when you ate a Concordouken and I thought that if I happened to drop the ****ing stripminers, they'd even MAKE money by ganking my Hulk.

I decided to fit enough tank to be able to resist one suicidal ganking destroyer/cruiser (a compromise between tank and yield), and always do the following:

-Get AWAY from the warp-in beacon. If something lands on your belt instead of directly on your Hulk, you want to be as far from it as possible. Don't warp in and turn on the stripminers.

-Stay aligned. If some potential hostiles land on your belt, you WANT to be just a couple of seconds from warping out. This greatly increases your chances of making it.

I've mined in 0.0, in High sec and in Wormholes, and I never ever lost a Hulk.

I know that if they TRULY, REALLY want to kill you and properly set it up, with a scanning alt and a cloaky ship to jump on your ass and enough cheap, disposable firepower, YOU ARE TOAST, but many people are in this for quick lulz and will not get a prepared miner most of the time.

Miners, as everybody in EvE, might lose their ship anytime. It's a lottery. Those who do boring activities semi-AFK and don't take precautions...well, they are buying more tickets than the rest and will probably learn a valuable and expensive lesson.