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A "solution" to the mining carebear problem.
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#21 - 2012-05-08 01:23:36 UTC
Funny but it still wont work.


A) set clone to high sec and pod yourself or get podded and your free.

B) Whats stopping some miner with a cap ship or any other jump capable ship from bringing in LOTS of goodies or leaving? In fact itd be highly lucrative to bring in a ship full of better priced loot and undercutting you for stuff. Whats a bil isk cap ship to "spend" when you can bring in and sell probes at half your price lets say and make back all your isk by selling only one?


Funny and really all that a lot of null sec is about. Miners, ratters, botting, explo, etc or not.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Iamien
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-05-08 01:25:55 UTC
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
Funny but it still wont work.


A) set clone to high sec and pod yourself or get podded and your free.

B) Whats stopping some miner with a cap ship or any other jump capable ship from bringing in LOTS of goodies or leaving? In fact itd be highly lucrative to bring in a ship full of better priced loot and undercutting you for stuff. Whats a bil isk cap ship to "spend" when you can bring in and sell probes at half your price lets say and make back all your isk by selling only one?


Funny and really all that a lot of null sec is about. Miners, ratters, botting, explo, etc or not.



They wont have access to the medical facility in the +5 standing corp.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#23 - 2012-05-08 01:28:28 UTC
Iamien wrote:
evil nefarious plan


+1 for the mindset required to come up with such a devilishly ebil plan.

Ming The Merciless, he plays Eve.

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Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-05-08 02:40:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Jayrendo Karr
When the miners quit and the "friends" renting you space dont get no mins, you're gonna be in a ton of pain. Also this would be an easy breach of EULA.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#25 - 2012-05-08 02:47:13 UTC
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
Also this would be an easy breach of EULA.

Do you enjoy speaking out of your ass, or is it simply a habit?

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Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-05-08 02:49:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Jayrendo Karr
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
Also this would be an easy breach of EULA.

Do you enjoy speaking out of your ass, or is it simply a habit?

It would be considered targetted griefing. CCP doesnt mind random ganking, or even some harrassment, but they'd still intervene in a no-escape case like this. CCP would risk a PR disaster, also word would get out very fast about this scam.
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-05-08 03:05:33 UTC
The more good ideas that happen the more fun the game will be. Good work capsuleer!

Ferox #1
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#28 - 2012-05-08 03:18:55 UTC
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
Also this would be an easy breach of EULA.

Do you enjoy speaking out of your ass, or is it simply a habit?

It would be considered targetted griefing. CCP doesnt mind random ganking, or even some harrassment, but they'd still intervene in a no-escape case like this. CCP would risk a PR disaster, also word would get out very fast about this scam.

Sorry, but you're wrong. It's not targeted griefing, as the only thing that would prevent these "slaves" from escaping would be their own ignorance.

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Boomhaur
#29 - 2012-05-08 05:17:56 UTC
Ahh great I know Eve is full of evil sick sadistic bastards but still. Do we really need a "solution" to the miner question. Can't we just go back to the indiscriminate killing that we have always done and quit being prejudice about who we kill.

Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you.
Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-05-08 05:44:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Jayrendo Karr
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
Also this would be an easy breach of EULA.

Do you enjoy speaking out of your ass, or is it simply a habit?

It would be considered targetted griefing. CCP doesnt mind random ganking, or even some harrassment, but they'd still intervene in a no-escape case like this. CCP would risk a PR disaster, also word would get out very fast about this scam.

Sorry, but you're wrong. It's not targeted griefing, as the only thing that would prevent these "slaves" from escaping would be their own ignorance.

How can you escape with no jumpclones, no probes, no medical clones, no isk, and no ships, and a gaurded gate with bubbles? A hulk in hisec can escape if fit properly. Even the ignorant need a chance to learn. They won't mine, they'll just quit leaving the person with no slaves, and ccp with less customers. The point of eve is freedom not slavery. Sure things get expensive but even in a WH you can pod yourself to get back to empire. It is targetted griefing when people say do x or quit the game. Eve is about being able to stop doing x and start doing y. What good is it to learn something, and never be able to use it? Why drive a cra if you won't see a car ever again in your life? Those who don't learn will fail anyways, regardless of their situation. Those who learn should be rewarded with greater opportunity, not imprisoned for making a mistake.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#31 - 2012-05-08 05:49:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
Iamien wrote:
Sid Hudgens wrote:
Look man, I'm not saying you can't smoke crack ... I'm just saying maybe don't smoke all the crack at once, you know?


I don't believe there is anything wrong with my plan as far as mechanics go. The only variable is if CCP would grant their stuck petitions.



and/or the people that stop playing those alts.......

Jayrendo Karr wrote:

How can you escape with no jumpclones, no probes, no medical clones, no isk, and no ships, and a gaurded gate with bubbles? A hulk in hisec can escape if fit properly. Even the ignorant need a chance to learn. They won't mine, they'll just quit leaving the person with no slaves, and ccp with less customers. The point of eve is freedom not slavery. Sure things get expensive but even in a WH you can pod yourself to get back to empire. It is targetted griefing when people say do x or quit the game. Eve is about being able to stop doing x and start doing y. What good is it to learn something, and never be able to use it? Why drive a cra if you won't see a car ever again in your life? Those who don't learn will fail anyways, regardless of their situation. Those who learn should be rewarded with greater opportunity.


alts

Dont think the average miner is SO MMO stupid they wont just make an alt and say "**** your plan"

/thread

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-05-08 05:56:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Jayrendo Karr
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:

alts

Dont think the average miner is SO MMO stupid they wont just make an alt and say "**** your plan"

/thread

What good is an alt against a nullsec alliance? When you spent 4 months skilling you probably wont restart, you'll just quit and say **** this game. The game shouldn't weed out people for making a mistake, it should weed them out for not getting smarter
LuminousAxle
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2012-05-08 05:59:44 UTC
Pretty sure u can use the medical to reset your clone location regardless of standings. Would like to know for sure either way though. The wiki didn't say much on it when I looked either, i just vaguely remember doing it at one point but then maybe I'm just mental.
Tub Chil
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-05-08 06:26:59 UTC
If they leave the corp, won't their home station be npc?
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2012-05-08 06:42:49 UTC
Iamien wrote:
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
Funny but it still wont work.


A) set clone to high sec and pod yourself or get podded and your free.

B) Whats stopping some miner with a cap ship or any other jump capable ship from bringing in LOTS of goodies or leaving? In fact itd be highly lucrative to bring in a ship full of better priced loot and undercutting you for stuff. Whats a bil isk cap ship to "spend" when you can bring in and sell probes at half your price lets say and make back all your isk by selling only one?


Funny and really all that a lot of null sec is about. Miners, ratters, botting, explo, etc or not.



They wont have access to the medical facility in the +5 standing corp.

doesn't matter, just leave the corp and you'll get teleported to the nearest low-sec station with medical facilities the next time you die.

.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#36 - 2012-05-08 06:45:17 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
Iamien wrote:
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
Funny but it still wont work.


A) set clone to high sec and pod yourself or get podded and your free.

B) Whats stopping some miner with a cap ship or any other jump capable ship from bringing in LOTS of goodies or leaving? In fact itd be highly lucrative to bring in a ship full of better priced loot and undercutting you for stuff. Whats a bil isk cap ship to "spend" when you can bring in and sell probes at half your price lets say and make back all your isk by selling only one?


Funny and really all that a lot of null sec is about. Miners, ratters, botting, explo, etc or not.



They wont have access to the medical facility in the +5 standing corp.

doesn't matter, just leave the corp and you'll get teleported to the nearest low-sec station with medical facilities the next time you die.

^---this.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-05-08 10:20:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Sigurd Sig Hansen
Pretty sure you can just make an alt. Which is what ID do.

Then again apparently Im one of the rare breed who are "carebear" (even though I mine and WOULD NOT come to the forums to QQ when my untanked hulk got blown up cause I NEVER TANK IT

but w/e :labels:) and am not a complete moron

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-05-08 11:06:04 UTC
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
B) Whats stopping some miner with a cap ship or any other jump capable ship from bringing in LOTS of goodies or leaving?


The cynojammer and the resultant fact that they can't get their capitals into the system in the first place?

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Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#39 - 2012-05-08 11:09:08 UTC
Iamien wrote:
A "solution" to the mining carebear problem.


Hulkaggedon on a bi-monthly basis :)
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-05-08 11:13:56 UTC
I've never wanted to report a post before. Congrats on being the first. N-azis reference is clear. That CCP hasn't locked it for such is completely BS.

Don't ban me, bro!
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