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I want my SP refunded

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Gay Mafia Princess
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-05-07 22:31:02 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
I do not understand at all why more people don't complain about htis sort of thing.
Because there is nothing to complain about.

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Titans are a good example you spend good isk and more importantly time to just have CCP nerf what ever you do.
Yes, that happens when things are not working properly.

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If they are going to institute major changes then players should be given the option of having the sp returned.
And when major changes are instituted, they do. Making Titans more reasonable and improving the market do not constitute major changes.

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As an aside, very poor customer service in having to be told to offer this in the first place.
No, just very poor customers.



People don't complain because of people like yourself who immediately start to put them down and their ideas. You can't convince ignoramuses like yourself of anything because you already know it all.

Working properly is relative. Contracts were working just fine. The only reason this was changed was to allow for values to appear on killmails (sometime in the future). Killmails which are used for such worthless things in determining corp efficiency etc, which I would like to point out the mass whoring of mails that occurred during the burn Jita event. Killmaills are a worthless waste of time and effort.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#22 - 2012-05-07 22:34:03 UTC
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
People don't complain because of people like yourself who immediately start to put them down
…because they're complaining over nothing. In this case, you're complaining over a feature that is still in the game and that you can still use, and which you (presumably) have been putting to good use for a while now.

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Working properly is relative. Contracts were working just fine.
…and that's why contracts didn't change, nor did the skills you're complaining about. So why should you get any SP back when nothing has been lost or removed?
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2012-05-07 22:34:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarsus Zateki
You have an unending ability for selfishness. Killmails matter to a tremendous number of players. And nearly all major killboard software implementations have supported the cost of faction modules for a very long time now. Just because they have no interest to one vocal minority doesn't mean they don't matter to the rest of us.

Just to repeat my earlier post, if you're unable to think of an effective use for this skill that's your fault, not CCPs.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Gay Mafia Princess
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-05-07 22:36:30 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
You have an unending ability for selfishness. Killmails matter to a tremendous number of players. And nearly all major killboard software implementations have supported the cost of faction modules for a very long time now. Just because they have no interest to one vocal minority doesn't mean they don't matter to the rest of us.

Just to repeat my earlier post, if you're unable to think of an effective use for this skill that's your fault, not CCPs.


So CCP is changing this why then? Answer: No good reason.
Gay Mafia Princess
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-05-07 22:37:49 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
People don't complain because of people like yourself who immediately start to put them down
…because they're complaining over nothing. In this case, you're complaining over a feature that is still in the game and that you can still use, and which you (presumably) have been putting to good use for a while now.

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Working properly is relative. Contracts were working just fine.
…and that's why contracts didn't change, nor did the skills you're complaining about. So why should you get any SP back when nothing has been lost or removed?


If CCP changes their game that that an individuals game is impacted to the extent where previous game play is no longer an option then the only option is to start doing something else. So because CCP has decided to change the game and make (potentially make) a character worthless everyone gets to start over again. That is not fun at all.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-05-07 22:40:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarsus Zateki
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
You have an unending ability for selfishness. Killmails matter to a tremendous number of players. And nearly all major killboard software implementations have supported the cost of faction modules for a very long time now. Just because they have no interest to one vocal minority doesn't mean they don't matter to the rest of us.

Just to repeat my earlier post, if you're unable to think of an effective use for this skill that's your fault, not CCPs.


So CCP is changing this why then? Answer: No good reason.


They haven't changed a thing with contracts. You can still list faction modules in contract if you want to, many people still do since contracts allow cross region searching. CCP didn't put faction items on the market to nerf contracts they did it to improve the quality of life of players all across the game; this is a feature that has been in demand for years!

This is why they won't refund skill points. The function of those skills has not changed at all.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
#27 - 2012-05-07 22:40:38 UTC
Nothing to see here, move along, move along....
Whitehound
#28 - 2012-05-07 22:40:55 UTC
Your name worries me more than your problem.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2012-05-07 22:41:59 UTC
Terranid Meester wrote:
Nothing to see here, move along, move along....


Go get your own pubbie filth to play with, this one is mine!

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Gay Mafia Princess
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-05-07 22:42:12 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
You have an unending ability for selfishness. Killmails matter to a tremendous number of players. And nearly all major killboard software implementations have supported the cost of faction modules for a very long time now. Just because they have no interest to one vocal minority doesn't mean they don't matter to the rest of us.

Just to repeat my earlier post, if you're unable to think of an effective use for this skill that's your fault, not CCPs.


So CCP is changing this why then? Answer: No good reason.


They haven't changed a thing with contracts. You can still list faction modules in contract if you want to, many people still do since contracts allow cross region searching. CCP didn't put faction items on the market to nerf contracts they did it to improve the quality of life of players all across the game; this is a feature that has been in demand for years!


Maybe you should stick to selling your price fixed ships to your goon alliance mates since you have really no clue on how this change has affected the dynamic of the market.

Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-05-07 22:45:04 UTC
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
You have an unending ability for selfishness. Killmails matter to a tremendous number of players. And nearly all major killboard software implementations have supported the cost of faction modules for a very long time now. Just because they have no interest to one vocal minority doesn't mean they don't matter to the rest of us.

Just to repeat my earlier post, if you're unable to think of an effective use for this skill that's your fault, not CCPs.


So CCP is changing this why then? Answer: No good reason.


They haven't changed a thing with contracts. You can still list faction modules in contract if you want to, many people still do since contracts allow cross region searching. CCP didn't put faction items on the market to nerf contracts they did it to improve the quality of life of players all across the game; this is a feature that has been in demand for years!


Maybe you should stick to selling your price fixed ships to your goon alliance mates since you have really no clue on how this change has affected the dynamic of the market.



Taking a look at the market sub-forum, you're the only person whining about this and that forum is filled folks way smarter than the both of us. If this was actually a problem they would be making a big deal about it. I'm hoping Weasilor pops up in this thread to properly blow you out of the water.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Gay Mafia Princess
Doomheim
#32 - 2012-05-07 22:46:35 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
You have an unending ability for selfishness. Killmails matter to a tremendous number of players. And nearly all major killboard software implementations have supported the cost of faction modules for a very long time now. Just because they have no interest to one vocal minority doesn't mean they don't matter to the rest of us.

Just to repeat my earlier post, if you're unable to think of an effective use for this skill that's your fault, not CCPs.


So CCP is changing this why then? Answer: No good reason.


They haven't changed a thing with contracts. You can still list faction modules in contract if you want to, many people still do since contracts allow cross region searching. CCP didn't put faction items on the market to nerf contracts they did it to improve the quality of life of players all across the game; this is a feature that has been in demand for years!


Maybe you should stick to selling your price fixed ships to your goon alliance mates since you have really no clue on how this change has affected the dynamic of the market.



Taking a look at the market sub-forum, you're the only person whining about this and that forum is filled folks way smarter than the both of us. If this was actually a problem they would be making a big deal about it. I'm hoping Weasilor pops up in this thread to properly blow you out of the water.


Right, I keep forgetting you are a know nothing nobody who keeps posting in my thread.

/ignore
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#33 - 2012-05-07 22:47:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
So CCP is changing this why then? Answer: No good reason.
Because it makes sense; because it makes things more consistent; because it makes things more efficient; because it improves a number of other features. Plenty of good reasons. As a bonus, it doesn't break anything.

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If CCP changes their game that that an individuals game is impacted to the extent where previous game play is no longer an option
…and when they do that, they do indeed give people their SP back. That's not what is happening here, though. You can still use the skills for the same thing they've always been used for. Nothing has changed with how contracts work; what contracts can be used for; how the contract skills work.

So why should they give you any SP back when nothing has been lost or removed?
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2012-05-07 22:49:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarsus Zateki
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:

Right, I keep forgetting you are a know nothing nobody who keeps posting in my thread.

/ignore


* posts my parting shot * /ignore "You can't touch me! You can't touch me!"

Another example of the courage of high-sec pubbie filth.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Sobach
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-05-07 22:50:17 UTC
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Maybe you should stick to selling your price fixed ships to your goon alliance mates since you have really no clue on how this change has affected the dynamic of the market.


at first I was like Lol because I thought you were trolling, but then I was like Straight for the state of mankind when I realized you were serious.



By your logic, I should have my entire skillpool refunded because the recent drone/loot changes affected market price for just about every ship.
SeaBassSA
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-05-07 22:51:16 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:

Right, I keep forgetting you are a know nothing nobody who keeps posting in my thread.

/ignore


* posts my parting shot * /ignore "You can't touch me! You can't touch me!"

Another example of high-sec pubbie filth's cowardice.


Pubbies gonna pub.
Gay Mafia Princess
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-05-07 22:52:13 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
So CCP is changing this why then? Answer: No good reason.
Because it makes sense; because it makes things more consistent; because it makes things more efficient; because it improves a number of other features. Plenty of good reasons. As a bonus, it doesn't break anything.

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If CCP changes their game that that an individuals game is impacted to the extent where previous game play is no longer an option
…and when they do that, they do indeed give people their SP back. That's not what is happening here, though. You can still use the skills for the same thing they've always been used for. Nothing has changed with how contracts work; what contracts can be used for; how the contract skills work.

So why should they give you any SP back when nothing has been lost or removed?


Argument here is not that you can't use them. Argument is you can not use them in the same way. While this is not a major change for everyone it is a major change just the same. Very easy customer service issue to resolve. Refund the SP.
MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
#38 - 2012-05-07 22:52:44 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
a home made pie made from a medley of the finest fruits and berries Iceland has to offer.


That's probably a very thin pie.

I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore.

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#39 - 2012-05-07 22:55:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Argument here is not that you can't use them.
…and that's why there is no reason to give you your SP back. Your skills still do exactly what they did before; you can use them in the exact same way. You have decided that you don't want to. That's your problem, and no-one else's. There is quite literally nothing to resolve.

MeestaPenni wrote:
Darth Tickles wrote:
a home made pie made from a medley of the finest fruits and berries Iceland has to offer.
That's probably a very thin pie.
They have a fair amount of sheep, so there is one type of berry that should be in ample supply…
Gay Mafia Princess
Doomheim
#40 - 2012-05-07 22:57:42 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Gay Mafia Princess wrote:
Argument here is not that you can't use them.
…and that's why there is no reason to give you your SP back. Your skills still do exactly what they did before; you can use them in the exact same way. You have decided that you don't want to. That's your problem, and no-one else's. There is quite literally nothing to resolve.


No, I can not do EXACTLY as I did before. If I could I would not be complaining.