EVE General Discussion

Greetings capsuleer Whitehound,

Repeating the same lies will not validate your point.

Regards,

Shian Yang

I then suggest you stop repeating them. And get yourself checked for narcissism.

So? They can still have more open trades going than before, because that's one of the mechanical differences between the two markets.

The benefit is that the market becomes more efficient, more consistent, and more logical (and it has additional benefits outside of the market as well). It also allows for a much clearer distinction between different trading use cases, removing the mess and inconsistency that was the mix-and-match between what items could randomly be sold where for no apparent reason (although there's admittedly a fair amount of stuff that remains to be done in that area).

Open trades are dead trades. With market buy orders do I not have to put all the ISKs up for example. Market orders are simply better.

And please give some examples of these benefits. It sounds somewhat hypothetical the way you describe it. I am sure everyone would love to know how they can still profit from the contract skills after the change.

First off, there are as many "injections" for clinical narcissism as there are reasons to suspect it of Yang. FYI, that is 0.

More to the point, this has IMPROVED the market, not nerfed it. Contracts was one giant mess of scams and individual modules thrown up into a system that was too easily manipulated by an individual person. Many of the modules restricted to the contracts system had their pricing controlled by an individual or small group of players. A lot like the tech moons... **nudges CCP**
Putting those individual items into the market (where pricing can be tracked, by the way) makes the contracts system cleaner and more appropriate for its original purpose: to sell groups of items as one unit. This is also an obvious piece of CCP's plan to widen the ISK sink involving taxes and pull ISK out of the game before the economy completely collapses.

The skillpoints aren't useless. Use them to create contracts for your alliance. That's what they were for in the first place.

No, open trades are active. Having more of them available is good, because you can react to the market that much faster.
They are better for one type of trading; contracts are better for a different kind. Someone who used to only be able to trade on one of those markets can now trade on both and gain the benefits of both.
You mean the benefits I just listed? Yes, they are some examples of benefits… that's why I listed them.
By selling things through contracts, obviously.

Selling fitted ships to your alliance/corporation in war zones for a pretty profit. The GoonSwarm Federation takes advantage of this at a station wherever we are basing out of.

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That's a customer service philosophy, not a Fact, you moron. Otherwise you'd have people buying cars for two cents.

There are times when customers are just ******* idiots, just like there are times that the company/employees can be. You can't treat your customers like the idiots they are, however (unless you have an AWESOME job), so you treat them like they're right, while you're explaining that they're wrong/explaining policies/suggest alternatives (all of which have been gone through at length in this thread). But at the end of the day, the customer is still wrong.

All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.

They changed nothing about that aspect of the game hence no SP will be reimbursed, baby.

But I can already predict what you are going to say which is still irrelevant.

Give me an actual example of how this affects your trade practices.

actually it is.

except you're asking to get Y amount of Plexes back (during which time you played), effectively.

I figure this by SP roughly equals playtime (give/take SP/hr depending on your stats). SO, you're asking for time that you already paid for BACK, despite the time that you ALREADY played it.

So in asking for X amount of SP back, you're asking for Y (and whatever fraction/decimal thereof) Plexes back. But you already PLAYED in that time (since CCP nerfed Ghost Training years back).

You always (unless seller is stupid) pay for time that the training took. For examples, Character Bazaar is that way ->