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Move All Manufacturing to Lo/Null
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Balthisus Filtch
RISE Inc.
#41 - 2012-05-08 00:23:06 UTC
mmm the troll is strong with this one.
Sid Hudgens
Doomheim
#42 - 2012-05-08 00:24:45 UTC
Damn you CCP! Why do you make everyone wait in these horrible queues for manufacturing slots in highsec!


Wait, hold on ... have to answer the phone here ... Iceland area code...


OP... I have news! CCP has just informed me that all systems, including wormhole space will now support manufacturing. You may go forth into low and null sec and manufacture all the things.

Man these CCP dudes are really on the ball ... giving the people what they want.

"....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#43 - 2012-05-08 02:47:38 UTC
Queues are timed. If you want in on one, just find the least amount of time for current prod. to finish and queue up for it. Chances are, if a queue suddenly fills it's because somebody found it and moved a Freighter load there to take advantage of it.

Queues have been like that since the day I first looked at them when I was doing my tutorial missions in Mining for Molehills, I think it was. You have to remember that new players use these too as part of the tutorials, and there isn't any shortage of manufacturing happening around market HUBs. 40K people online, you expect some of them are going to be running manufacturing. 
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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2012-05-08 03:01:01 UTC
Patrick Estemaire wrote:
Must be in Forge. Move out. Domain is an excellent location for manufacturing as you have Jita and Amarr nearby. Honestly there are a number of regions in that area that are ideal.

Once you get into Tech II Production you'll need your own POS to copy blueprints at. Plan accordingly.




YES< doamin and devoid are wonderful places to be, all there ever are out there are bots and annoying miners, theyll sell you mins cheap and leave youa ll the slots you need.

preferably i would say the systems of Dihra or Zaimeth as prime locations to set up shop.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2012-05-08 03:17:02 UTC
This thread is troll-tastic! So many good posts! I, unfortunately, have nothing more to add.

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Doomheim
#46 - 2012-05-08 10:23:33 UTC
Balthisus Filtch wrote:
mmm the troll is strong with this one.


yet its funny how the thread... it it not locked... Goon alt truly detected

Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#47 - 2012-05-08 10:38:03 UTC
Greyscale Dash wrote:
I've gotten into manufacturing and have noticed that the ques in hi sec tend to be filled constantly, and get refilled so fast after opening that they must be bots.

This game is all about risk and reward, so where is the risk in camping the manufacturing que in hi sec?

I propose that all manufacturing is moved to lo sec and null sec. I think this would make the game more interesting and would add a new dimension to EVE's already complex manufacturing process.


If you can't find manufacturing slots in hisec you are a ******* halfwit.

No offense.

also, 1/10. Not bad for GD.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2012-05-08 10:44:41 UTC
So because you can't be bothered to find manufacturing slots in hi-sec, everyone needs to move themselves to low-sec. This is incomprehensibly stupid. Three things will happen:

a. a lot of manufacturers will just straight out leave the game, or at least stop manufacturing

b. because of the increased risk, prices on everything will rise significantly which no-one needs right now

c. low-sec will be come crowded with manufacturers, and you still won't be able to find manufacturing slots

If you can't find free manufacturing slots in hi-sec you're either lazy, stupid or both. One suspects these issues would preclude you finding free manufacturing slots in low-sec, either.

Oh my god, you're so dumb even the Goons are taking a pass on you.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#49 - 2012-05-08 10:47:50 UTC
Greyscale Dash wrote:
I've gotten into manufacturing and have noticed that the ques in hi sec tend to be filled constantly, and get refilled so fast after opening that they must be bots.

This game is all about risk and reward, so where is the risk in camping the manufacturing que in hi sec?

I propose that all manufacturing is moved to lo sec and null sec. I think this would make the game more interesting and would add a new dimension to EVE's already complex manufacturing process.

-10/10

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#50 - 2012-05-08 10:54:37 UTC
Really the way to go is manufacturing from a POS in highsec. The only thing you would need a station to build is T2 items due to the stupid 1.1 material multiplier on advance arrays.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#51 - 2012-05-08 10:56:09 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Really the way to go is manufacturing from a POS in highsec. The only thing you would need a station to build is T2 items due to the stupid 1.1 material multiplier on advance arrays.


It wont be after they fix war decs.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#52 - 2012-05-08 11:01:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Brooks Puuntai
Cipher Jones wrote:
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Really the way to go is manufacturing from a POS in highsec. The only thing you would need a station to build is T2 items due to the stupid 1.1 material multiplier on advance arrays.


It wont be after they fix war decs.


I will have to look at dec changes, but really most do manufacturing in alt corps or with few members which generally isn't a target for wardecs. However If need be you can just take the **** down before the dec is active(unless thats one of the things thats changing).

Edit: Dec changes just seem to effect dec shields and alliance dumping, so yeah might be a pain for some but still generally more worth wild then relaying on station slots.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2012-05-08 11:19:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Andreus Ixiris
No, they're only changing the stupid and unneccessary requirement to vote on wardecs (which makes it a 48-hour process rather than a 24-hour one like it should be). There'll never be a situation in which a hi-sec corporation has less than 24 hours of warning that they're at war.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Miss Whippy
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-05-08 11:20:21 UTC
Metal Icarus wrote:
Goon alt or not, stupid post and I want my 2 minutes back.


It took you two minutes to read OP? Shocked

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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#55 - 2012-05-08 11:24:45 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
No, they're only changing the stupid and unneccessary requirement to vote on wardecs (which makes it a 48-hour process rather than a 24-hour one like it should be). There'll never be a situation in which a hi-sec corporation has less than 24 hours of warning that they're at war.


That shouldn't effect the defender since they shouldn't get notified of a vote their corp is being decced, only once the vote has passed which is 24 hours. Thats how its always been. So the change only effects the aggressor so they don't have to deal with the annoying crap of waiting 24 hours for a vote.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#56 - 2012-05-08 11:32:03 UTC
Greyscale Dash wrote:


I propose that all manufacturing is moved to lo sec and null sec.



Itf you think about this for even 5 seconds, you can easily see the game breaker bury inside.

gtfo. Just please, gtfo.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#57 - 2012-05-08 11:46:41 UTC
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Brooks Puuntai wrote:
Really the way to go is manufacturing from a POS in highsec. The only thing you would need a station to build is T2 items due to the stupid 1.1 material multiplier on advance arrays.


It wont be after they fix war decs.


I will have to look at dec changes, but really most do manufacturing in alt corps or with few members which generally isn't a target for wardecs. However If need be you can just take the **** down before the dec is active(unless thats one of the things thats changing).

Edit: Dec changes just seem to effect dec shields and alliance dumping, so yeah might be a pain for some but still generally more worth wild then relaying on station slots.


The dec shield is what makes it generally undesirable to attack hisec POS's, as the targets can protect the POS. When the dec shield protection is gone, many POS's will fall.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#58 - 2012-05-08 12:20:10 UTC
Manufacturing near trade hubs is always packed, but go 2-5 jumps away from a hub and you'll fine stations with plenty of free slots.

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#59 - 2012-05-08 12:20:58 UTC
Greyscale Dash wrote:
I've gotten into manufacturing and have noticed that the ques in hi sec tend to be filled constantly, and get refilled so fast after opening that they must be bots.



Yeah it's not like you can queue up a job on a slot that hasn't finished yet, so that your job starts automatically or something. Defininte bots. Also, get a POS, noob. Oh wait what's that? Need to grind standings forever to anchor in high sec? Well yeah, you want the reward for nothing? You don't need standings to anchor in low/null. Oh wait - is this what you meant?
Didier Nardieu
Tux factory
#60 - 2012-05-08 12:25:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Didier Nardieu
I allways have production slot 10 systems around jita... but i cant find research slot...... play like me buy bpc !