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Unified Winferno is now live - and it sucks as much it did on test server

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Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#201 - 2012-05-22 18:07:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Ila Dace
Don't know about the Window [TM] but liking the new portraits: http://i.imgur.com/PeZoc.jpg

(Bug allows local portaits sans outerwear)

If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg

But in purple, I'm stunning!

Zenst
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#202 - 2012-05-22 18:14:01 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'd just like to confirm that "winferno" is indeed going to be awesome.



Didn't you mean AWESOME as in:

Atrocious
Windowing
Enviroment
Stuffed
On
Many
Eve-players


Becasue that is what I read and experienced Shocked
leich
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#203 - 2012-05-22 18:22:47 UTC
This patch is so bitter sweet.

The new missile and amarr models are awsome.

the new inventory system is such i crock of ****.

im all for new functionality but dont break the existing model to do it.

we high lighted the issues with it the first day it was on sis and although improvements have been made it's really not ready for prime to deployment.

I would also say that the rest of the patch is also a let down. this patch could have been awsome but typical ccp half arsedness has ****** them again.
Maggot Jones
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#204 - 2012-05-22 18:23:32 UTC
New window system is terrible, i don't care what anyone says " give it some time " " go out get fresh air " usual crap, no just no, its crap in every way possible and videos have been made proving its ****, bring back old window system or give option to switch back, thanks.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#205 - 2012-05-22 18:24:33 UTC
Kremnican wrote:
Well, for those who like the new UI. It's not bad, really. As long as you have your items, hangar without containers and cargohold only.


I agree with you until this.

Everything else is exatcly related to what we're asking for.

You can't say something is good for release when such important little stuff makes you eve life harder. Either release it at a satisfying point or just don't.

brb

Maggot Jones
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#206 - 2012-05-22 18:26:43 UTC
Aron Croup wrote:
"Nothing to see here? Move along?"

Seriously, it's a new UI. There are as many ways to use a UI as there are people using it - and it will be impossible to accommodate everyone's particular wishes in the first run. Does that mean CCP should stop developing new technology or no longer attempt to improve on the old UI?

Certainly not. It just means you have to be patient and politely point out that you think there's a problem with the new system so it can be fixed in the iterative process.



It wasn't broke, or are you just some new scrub who started playing eve, never hear the expression, if it's not broke don't fix it.
Sir Halfloaf
Irn Bru Crew
#207 - 2012-05-22 18:27:11 UTC
Zenst wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'd just like to confirm that "winferno" is indeed going to be awesome.



Didn't you mean AWESOME as in:

Atrocious
Windowing
Enviroment
Stuffed
On
Many
Eve-players


Becasue that is what I read and experienced Shocked


This is actually my feeling entirely .. God it sucks big time . Even worse than the ship spinning being removed , then returning
Zora stein
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#208 - 2012-05-22 18:27:15 UTC
New hanger interfaces are **** ! I hated the last changes and the new changes are way worse.I like the missile effects but id trade that for my hanger back any day,Not good CCP Big thumbs down.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#209 - 2012-05-22 18:29:15 UTC
Came online in Jita. No Local Chat...not even Corp Chat !

Logged off and back on. Still no Local...still no Corp. Flew to 4-4. One other Rookie Ship besides my own buzzing around and nobody else. Weird.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900

Smoking McPot
The-Four-HorseMen
#210 - 2012-05-22 18:31:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Smoking McPot
the first thread was nuked before i hit post, god this forum sucks sometimes
at least it was not the software this time...

anyway

make it like windows explorer: a combination of the new and old ui

left pane as is, except you would make stuff draggable again.
also: Drag'n'Drop Activation

right pane shows the contents as is, except you would make it so that we can open cans/ships with a double click again.
Into multiple windows, side by side.

Tidied up cargo management for those obsessed with a clean interface, full range overview for those who like to see their huge widescreen real estate put to use.

It is just that more effective and more importantly, intuitive.

also: 4000 in jita local
edit: ohitsabug.jpg
Yabba Addict
Perkone
Caldari State
#211 - 2012-05-22 18:32:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Yabba Addict
yeah, jita local seems screwed. As for pilots, yeah i can see some, we're by the monument, blasting away Big smile

EDIT: I can feel a server restart coming on, i can't move either...but i can activate my mods
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#212 - 2012-05-22 18:35:39 UTC
Yabba Addict wrote:
yeah, jita local seems screwed. As for pilots, yeah i can see some, we're by the monument, blasting away Big smile


Ditto no local (no dialogue box at all)

Tal


Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#213 - 2012-05-22 18:35:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Fabulousli Obvious
There WERE 2600 on Local and hundreds buzzing around monument. That was so wierd having Lunch then coming back to a ghost town. Logging back in.....

And there is a Login Queue, #125 !!!!


After 4 minutes got down to #65.

Logging back again . #175. 5 minutes later I am #134.

Giving up.

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900

Javajunky
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#214 - 2012-05-22 18:46:08 UTC
I'm a little insulted to see CCP say "Well it was on SiSi you had the opportunity to complain about it..." (paraphrasing)

Most of us are adults with careers, jobs and families. Sorry if we weren't able to get on to your servers and test your crap out and increase the number of posts you already had complaining about this U/I But I'm paying customers and we're allowed to btich out something we don't like...and my 9 accounts certainly entitle me to do it whenver the f*ck I want...



I really wasn't sweating this, I honestly thought you had some basic common sense and made this an option just like walking in stations.

Did any of you people work there last year when walking in stations went live and how pissed people were about a UI change like that. What a a bunch of ******** @ss clowns, and if you don't like the criticism feel free to delete my accounts. If I get home from work today and find all 9 of them closed I won't lose a wink of sleep over it.
KanashiiKami
#215 - 2012-05-22 18:52:59 UTC
the UI seems to jam very often even in station when scrolling thru stuff ... rendering stoppages in gameplay for 30sec-60sec ... seems like im not going to risk a lag death out in space ...

so any minigames i can play in station?

WUT ???

Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#216 - 2012-05-22 18:55:31 UTC
Please express your unsatisfying arguments without insulting (real) people working hard under their directors orders to achieve such crap.

I have nothing to say to all of those who really did this job but to the one guy at the top with such an idiotic idea.
Fell free to forum ban this char like Tanya, I don't care, as far as I'm concerned I'm logging only to screw stuff up since it's the only way those big hats understand whatever.
OC this will last until my accounts are out of sub, unfortunately for me it's only in a few months, if only I could get my money back and biomass/trash all my **** , believe me I'd do so.

I really have the feeling of being racket with this window crap.

brb

Grey Stormshadow
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#217 - 2012-05-22 18:57:19 UTC
4090 in jita at the moment and it is pretty much not responding.

Get classic forum style - custom videos to captains quarters screen

Play with the best - die like the rest

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#218 - 2012-05-22 19:03:58 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'd just like to confirm that "winferno" is indeed going to be awesome.

Quoting for hilarity.

You guys shot yourselves in the foot. AGAIN. How can you possibly be surprised by basic UI problems like windows that won't save their size/position and reopen every time there's a session change? After all the reassurances, this is MOST disappointing.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

FeralShadow
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#219 - 2012-05-22 19:40:12 UTC
Shift click to open new window.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#220 - 2012-05-22 19:41:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Barbara Nichole
why did they do this without making a way to work around it? my whole beef with the removal of "ship spinning" was only that I was not able to easily open the cargo bay when I entered a station... they fixed that.. and now added this?

This was not an interface problem begging to be "solved".

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

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