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Incarna vs. Second Life

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Ranka Mei
TANoshii Incorporated
#1 - 2012-05-07 02:20:38 UTC
I used to be a staunch supporter of BiS (Barbie In Space), aka Incarna. During one of the many threads on the topic someone suggested that those im favor of it go play something like Second Life. Out of curiosity I did just that, and got myself a Second Life account.

Well, after a few months playing, building and decorating various homes, at this point all I can really say is: don't bother any more with Incarna. I mean, finding myself back into Captain's Quarters was like being trapped inside a wooden body, however pretty, awkwardly moving around, bumping into the furniture, unable to 'cam' around or even leave my home. It was a dreadful 'welcome home' experience for me.

So, yeah, just forget about Incarna. Either that, or improve upon it tenfold; but in its current incarnation Incarna sucks 9 ways to Sunday. And I've switched to 'spinning' view now.

-- "All your monies AUR belong to us!" -- CCP

Thomas Orca
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-05-07 02:21:36 UTC
Did you make it rain penises?
Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-05-07 02:24:41 UTC
Thomas Orca wrote:
Did you make it rain penises?



A second life experience is not complete with out it .
Aiwha
Infinite Point
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#4 - 2012-05-07 02:24:53 UTC
Thomas Orca wrote:
Did you make it rain penises?





If genitalia precipitation is wrong I don't wanna be right.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.

Riyal
invidious Squid
#5 - 2012-05-07 02:35:32 UTC
Thomas Orca wrote:
Did you make it rain penises?


Having this added to Incarna would make it 100% less pointless.

In hindsight my post should have had more psssshhhh

Alexa Coates
Coalition Of Misfits
#6 - 2012-05-07 02:41:00 UTC
Second life is furry haven as well as pedo haven, plus it lags like ****, why would you want ANYTHING to be even REMOTELY similar to it?

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.

Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-05-07 02:47:00 UTC
If Incarna is akin to second life, then why cant our characters have 100% muscle mass, rabbit ears, and tiger tails?

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#8 - 2012-05-07 02:59:35 UTC
So wait, you actually supported Incarna as it was? And I thought I was fighting a futile battle...

The Incarna as we got it was totally horrible (as far as walking in stations goes, new turrets and agent finder were still awesome =D)

What I support is the Incarna we have yet to have and has been talked about since before i joined EVE. The stuff from fanfest 2008 is what we want,

The Drake is a Lie

Boomhaur
#9 - 2012-05-07 05:52:26 UTC
Second Life is still around? I haven't heard of it in years, I thought it bit the dust. Hopefully CCP decided to permantly scrap the whole walking in stations thing, it sucked from the get go. We have freaking space ships, this is a game revolving around that we don't need to walk into a station to do something we can do more effeciently from the side menu. And BTW the door is still broken.

Welcome to Eve. Everyone here is an Evil Sick Sadistic Bastard who is out to get you. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either trying to scam you or use you.

Serene Repose
#10 - 2012-05-07 05:53:39 UTC
What's worse, comparing EVE to inferior games, or revealing one has played these inferior games thinking they're cool?
Discuss.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-05-07 06:01:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Degren
I don't know what I want out of the incarna side of the game. I'm not opposed to it if they can make it "fun" or immersive (edit: snarky joke ruined by ******* GOOGLE CHROME) but...I just can't think of what it would take for that to happen.

Certainly not modeling it off of Second Life, though.

Hello, hello again.

Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-05-07 06:25:47 UTC
Degren wrote:
add this word to your spellchecker, forum mods...
Spellchecker is in your browser...

Now, regarding second life, it's a completely different platform, like comparing oranges and bananas.
Linden Labs provided a social platform with 3D avatars when others had chat boxes and avatar pictures or 2D models, their users built numerous in-game things on top of it, be it businesses (RMT), clubs with DJs playing live, artistic content, games (casinos, RPGs), and so on.
CCP created a game with social tools, then added a 3D avatar showcase (it's the best avatar creator I've seen so far) but didn't make anything of it (yet...maybe), they fight RMT and try to maintain the core of the game: spaceship splosions. Other than mods and ships, user created content is out of game via websites.
That doesn't look like it can be put side by side.

[i]"haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator."[/i]

Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-05-07 06:31:47 UTC
Sin Pew wrote:
Degren wrote:
add this word to your spellchecker, forum mods...
Spellchecker is in your browser..


**** YOU, CHROME

Also, ellipses are hurtful. *******.

Hello, hello again.

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2012-05-07 06:49:15 UTC
Alexa Coates wrote:
Second life is furry haven as well as pedo haven, plus it lags like ****, why would you want ANYTHING to be even REMOTELY similar to it?


Purge it
Alpheias
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-05-07 07:29:26 UTC
Sin Pew wrote:


Now, regarding second life, it's a completely different platform, like comparing oranges and bananas.
Linden Labs provided a social platform with 3D avatars when others had chat boxes and avatar pictures or 2D models, their users built numerous in-game things on top of it, be it businesses (RMT), clubs with DJs playing live, artistic content, games (casinos, RPGs), and so on.


I can understand why you left out the x-rated stuff, but how do you know all this.. it is like you know what you are talking about!

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#16 - 2012-05-07 07:31:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
I installed Second Life twice and played it for a total of 10 minutes.

I immediately got approached by furries, pedos, sickos, everybody around me was murr murr (who recalls this term? Bear yes I played MUDs).

But what made me quit was when a SL2 guy offered me to go mining... they really know no respect!
Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-05-07 07:50:08 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Sin Pew wrote:


Now, regarding second life, it's a completely different platform, like comparing oranges and bananas.
Linden Labs provided a social platform with 3D avatars when others had chat boxes and avatar pictures or 2D models, their users built numerous in-game things on top of it, be it businesses (RMT), clubs with DJs playing live, artistic content, games (casinos, RPGs), and so on.


I can understand why you left out the x-rated stuff, but how do you know all this.. it is like you know what you are talking about!

and....Question

[i]"haiku are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator."[/i]

Janet Patton
Brony Express
#18 - 2012-05-07 07:55:58 UTC
I think you guys miss the point of avatars, its not about making it more efficient. It's about making giving more depth to the game and making it more engaging. I actually came back to start playing EVE because of the new avatars.

I love the fact that CCP even tried to expand the game to avatars, I never thought that would happen. Those of you that don't like it, are not forced to use it. (Well now at least) So I don't see why anyone is complaining about it, you can sit and in your ship and spin it 24/7.

I think it's really hard to go backwards and make elements of the game more engaging. Like how most games have quick travel, it kind of spoils the fun of heading somewhere and finding adventure on your way, also it really makes some places that are suppose to feel gar away and remote, exactly that when you have to get there yourself.

EVE could of easily had instant transfer of goods and items in this game through mail like WoW has, or have NPC couriers, or banks accessible from everywhere, but they didn't. What if they had though? And then CCP took it away? I can imagine everyone would be up in arms that they couldn't trade and sell and get their goods delivered to them instantly from anywhere.

With adding avatars, I think its something CCP wanted to do from the beginning with EVE, but couldn't with the technology they currently had. Now they are trying to add that flavor to the game, and people are up in arms because it ruins how quick and easy everything is currently done through the station window.

Why do I have this sig? I don't smoke.

Shian Yang
#19 - 2012-05-07 08:02:34 UTC
Janet Patton wrote:
With adding avatars, I think its something CCP wanted to do from the beginning with EVE, but couldn't with the technology they currently had. Now they are trying to add that flavor to the game, and people are up in arms because it ruins how quick and easy everything is currently done through the station window.


Greetings capsuleer,

You certainly make a compelling argument for form over function.

Regards,

Shian Yang
Loike
Pyramid Celestial
#20 - 2012-05-07 08:07:38 UTC
So Eve can't cater to gay players but other online games offer rabbit ears, donkey dongs and you can make it rain penises? This is the sort of gay **** I'm talking about!
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