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Pod Pilots ensuring Safety of the Crews

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Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-05-08 14:11:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Silas Vitalia
Arkady Sadik wrote:
Silas Vitalia wrote:
As we are nearly all mass-murderers I find more than a rudimentary concern for such things ironic to the highest degree.
You are an incredibly hard person! It's so impressive how cool you are! Your fans will love you for it!


On the topic of this thread, all my crew members are volunteers, they all know the risks, I ensure safety procedures like escape pods being in excellent condition. I also am utilizing a condolence service that sends condolence letters to families in case of ship loss, and transfers wages earned that way as well.

The most effective method to increase crew safety I found, though, is to avoid "fun" or "suicide" engagements in anything but frigates. Easier for me, as I fight for a purpose. People who fight for no purpose will find this very difficult.


Concern for your own crew does not discount what I'm sure are thousands of individuals exploded via your weapons, and the numerous orphans and grieving spouses caused by your actions.

It is important we come to terms with such things, one way or another.

Sabik now, Sabik forever

Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
#22 - 2012-05-08 14:42:02 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
It is important we come to terms with such things, one way or another.
Indeed. The cool kids on the block come to terms by proclaiming that they only have a "rudimentary concern" left.

Silly people like me come to terms with it by reminding myself that every life is still a life, no matter how many had to die at my hands in this insane universe.

Have you considered purchasing some sun glasses? They'd look good on you.
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-05-08 14:55:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Silas Vitalia
Arkady Sadik wrote:
Silas Vitalia wrote:
It is important we come to terms with such things, one way or another.
Indeed. The cool kids on the block come to terms by proclaiming that they only have a "rudimentary concern" left.

Silly people like me come to terms with it by reminding myself that every life is still a life, no matter how many had to die at my hands in this insane universe.

Have you considered purchasing some sun glasses? They'd look good on you.


Mr. Sadik that dichotomy between us is at the root of the central issue of the day. Weather we spend our time championing the downtrodden and attempting to use our power to staunch the flow of blood caused by others, or do we recognize and embrace our place in the cosmic food chain and act accordingly. I'd love to discuss this further with you at some point, or of course you can keep talking about eyewear.

Sabik now, Sabik forever

Logan Fyreite
Grim Bit Interface
#24 - 2012-05-08 16:18:21 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:

Mr. Sadik that dichotomy between us is at the root of the central issue of the day. Weather we spend our time championing the downtrodden and attempting to use our power to staunch the flow of blood caused by others, or do we recognize and embrace our place in the cosmic food chain and act accordingly. I'd love to discuss this further with you at some point, or of course you can keep talking about eyewear.

I find myself agreeing with Silas on this matter. It's not just because it has been so long since I've been called a "cool kid," but also because her statements make the most sense.

There is some effort needed to ensure a function ship and crew, and as we all should know, that includes regular combat, firefighting, depressurization, and escape drills. Beyond that, the crews serve their purposes as planned, and when one dies it's not like tens more don't step up in order to become crew in the next ship. Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that it is already your responsibility to keep your crew alive?

Were you not already drilling them, and keeping them combat ready? If not then the failure lies with your leadership.

Besides if the life of crew was so poor, it is unlikely we would have crews at all, let alone the legions of crew that seem to flock around the very prospect of flying in capsuleer ships. This gives me the indication that their salaries and death benefits should and likely do take care of their families in the event of their demise.
Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
#25 - 2012-05-08 18:23:31 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
or do we recognize and embrace our place in the cosmic food chain and act accordingly.
We are capsuleers. We pick our place in the food chain - we do not "accept and embrace" what is given to us, we choose. The difference between you and me is that I live with the responsibility that power gives me. You simply rid yourself of that responsibility by arguing that you have to be what you are, that you have to accept the place given to you.

Which is ok. Capsuleers are free to pick their place. You pick yours. What you are doing here, though, is trying to defend your choice by claiming it's stupid to decide differently. It isn't. You are just afraid of realizing that, when you have become a "mass murderer" as you called yourself, it was your personal choice to be fine with that.

But I still think some good shades would fit you well.
Arkady Vachon
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#26 - 2012-05-08 20:05:17 UTC
There is a phenomenon as old as our races that captains of vessels tend not to think about the crews of the ships that they destroy, to many captains they are not shooting at living people - they are shooting at a starship hull, an unliving thing animated by power reactors and driven on star-hot plasma, that is shooting back at them.

At most, many capsuleers (and i have myself, at times, thought this way in the heat of combat) think of their target as another pod pilot, not a pod pilot and his or her crewmen.

It is a way of dealing with warfare on this scale, one that probably have been with us since our ancient ancestors came through the EVE Gate to this cluster, and reborn with us into the society that we now know. Tanks shoot at tanks, areospace craft shoot at areospace craft, naval vessels shoot at naval vessels, and starships shoot at starships - in every case it is a way of thinking that insulates one's mind and sanity from knowing that I just launched a salvo of anti-ship missiles that will kill a hundred or more people who crew that vessel.

In this regard, then, only the foot soldier knows the true horror of warfare, as they usually see the person they kill - and if the whispers of immortal clone soldeirs coming to the fore are true, even this may become far more cold and impersonal.

As capsuleers, our immortal status means that we will be reborn when we die in combat via a new copy of our cloned body, but I think it distances us farther from just how horrible warfare can be, and with that distance comes a coldness for some in regard for the fates of others, be it the crews of the ships that we fire upon, or the crews of our own vessels.

Nothing Personal - Just Business...

Chaos Creates Content

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#27 - 2012-05-08 21:19:17 UTC
It's impossible to reduce casualties to nil, and the advice so far is good, but I haven't seen an important point: T2 ships. Albeit "inspired" by their original hulls, they are constructed from the ground up for maximum control to the capsuleer, which results in much smaller crews than the pod-retrofitted T1 ships require. Some of them may still die in the inevitable event of your ship's explosion, but it makes the baseline for how many people you have the potential to lose that much lower.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)

Yoshito Sanders
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-05-08 23:50:07 UTC
I hear there's insurance you can purchase to help alleviate the problems of crew casualties.
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#29 - 2012-05-09 13:40:39 UTC
The benefit of living in Sansha space is the endless supply of disposible crew.

They are like soilders, except I do not have to pay them and they do not even flinch when we enter structure.

If the ship goes down, I never see an escape pod. Not one. Now that is dedication!

Maybe Sansha is on to something.....
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