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Not sure if you mentioned any good ideas, I stopped reading at Griefers vs. CCP. CCP and griefers aren't in any way misaligned. Once you have fully recognized this, go back through your post and re-think it. If you still stick by any of your points, come tell em to me, and I'll be more willing to listen.

Ummm ... sorry to say, but CCP has thrown away the "we're greifers too" attitude.

They teamed up with Sony for DUST514, nothing will ever be the same. The whole reason for discussing changes is that CCP is not going to allow the new player recruitment opportunity that DUST will provide to be undermined by a small number of die-hard greifers. They will hard code changes if they need to, so come up with good ideas, or blame yourself if you don't like what happens.

I'd love to see a ganker... as many as it takes, to get me when I'm docked.

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Erm, that's not how it works...You can't just kick reds out of the station.



Ship prices are player driven, and if you want to mine in a battleship, then just mine in a battleship.

It's all apart fo the sand box.

You really don't know much about how things work, do you?

Legendary.

"While we do have hundreds of thousands of people that love the EVE Online experience, it is a very particular type of game." i.e. we have had serious problems getting to a million people, let alone 10 million, and we've given up on EVE as making it just by improving the game, we need to build new games because we can't reach our customer number goals.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/04/29/dust-514-promises-to-be-a-game-changer-an-interview-with-ccp-games-ceo-hilmar-petersson/

EVE is an underperforming intellectual property. When you tell people to go play WoW, you need to remember that actually most people have played WoW, and many still do. Most MMO gamers have never played EVE either at all or past the old tutorial: they hit the learning cliff and left.

Wake up and smell the commercial reality here people, CCP wants more customers. DUST will give them a golden marketing opportunity, and they won't want greifers killing their chance at improved commercial returns on two decades of hard work, especially when minor tweaks and fixing obviously broken systems (bounties), and increasing dynamic play in null to re-engage players there, would reduce the greifing issue and increase player retention.

They did have to let people go last year because CCP didn't have enough cash to pay them. That's called the blunt bottom line - if you don't bring in enough US$, you can't keep paying it out if you want to survive as a business.
At 9 years old, EVE should be paying CCP a lot more than it currently appears to be.

"A lot of interest in the IP" is industry speak for people want to buy the rights to use EVE Online's brand. You should stop right now, face the Emperor, and thank all the Amarr gods in EVE that CCP didn't just sell the rights.



It does make a difference to CCP when they gave the PLEX away, and forgo income because of it. PLEX also creates a future debt. Look at where America's economy ended up by being too cute with debts.

Read what CCP's CEO is saying. DUST is a doorway into the EVE world: and CCP will probably not make real money off DUST long term unless those players move into EVE itself, and pay with actual US$. Free to play DUST means ongoing costs: if DUST does not pull in the new subscribers SONY wants for its PS3, who do you think is going to be footing the bill to keep DUST working once the initial contract is up for renegotiation? Just like in EVE itself, nothing is ever really free. So do the math and think about it - DUST's pricing model only works long term if CCP get a lot of players coming into EVE from DUST, and subbing up and staying. It's brilliant as a marketing tool, but viable in the long term only if new players join the game, and stay. This whole thread is about minor changes to improve the likelihood that an identified subsegment of the population would continue to play, and indeed play and buy and use PLEX on items too.

Save a carebear, help CCP. You have all of nullsec and lowsec to go crazy ganking people in, I don't see what the issue is about improving protetions for newer/social orientated players in Highsec. The ISK per hour mining there sucks, anyway.

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Oh and thank you for contributing. I had a friend join Red v Blue and he had superb things to say about you guys. Discussing an issue should always be about the issue, not about the person speaking. And the more perspectives on an issue, the more robust the conversation, the more useful it is for game developers. Games like these are inevitably about balancing competing tensions, however ultimately the commercial bottom line has to win out (or like so many pvp games before, the game shuts down).