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Players of high sec - CCP is trolling you and laughing while doing it. A proposition.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#161 - 2012-05-06 13:43:41 UTC
"hey I wonder why that hulk pilot who got blown up is sitting around in his pod, maybe he's lamenting the loss of his ship while continuing to keep at range on asteroids"

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"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#162 - 2012-05-06 13:44:16 UTC
Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:
So every miner deserves death?



Where do minerals come from then?



Bots obviously.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#163 - 2012-05-06 13:45:02 UTC
hey guys remember when Sreegs showed the percentages of bots banned by region

remember how the lion's share of them were in hisec

that was hilarious

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"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#164 - 2012-05-06 13:45:09 UTC
Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:
So every miner deserves death?



Where do minerals come from then?


Well, the miners we can't kill obviously.
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#165 - 2012-05-06 13:45:58 UTC
Andski wrote:
hey guys remember when Sreegs showed the percentages of bots banned by region

remember how the lion's share of them were in hisec

that was hilarious



That is because highsec is where the nullsec bot alts go to pull cosmic **** tons of trit. Oh snap! I put egg on your face.... sorry.

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Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#166 - 2012-05-06 13:47:16 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Andski wrote:
hey guys remember when Sreegs showed the percentages of bots banned by region

remember how the lion's share of them were in hisec

that was hilarious



That is because highsec is where the nullsec bot alts go to pull cosmic **** tons of trit. Oh snap! I put egg on your face.... sorry.


Trit being the huge earner that it is, it makes plenty of sense that 'botters' in 0.0 would abandon their great mineral sources for ****** ones.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#167 - 2012-05-06 13:47:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
When I'm in warp, they're going pop. Doesn't matter if they're aligned (lol) or have warp core stabs or reinforced bulkheads. Before I go in warp I know how they're fit, where they're aligned to (if) and how much dps (within +/- 5%) it will take to kill them.


I've seen aligned carriers/dreads dodge doomsdays. A Hulk has superior mobility to both.

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"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Whitehound
#168 - 2012-05-06 13:47:28 UTC
Andski wrote:
here you go assuming that eve has an end game

No, you do. I am neither flying a Titan or gank Hulks.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#169 - 2012-05-06 13:47:30 UTC
Is this about miners or bots? If there were no bots, would there still be all this hate for roid gnawers?

Odyssey: Repacking in POS hangars for modules +1,  but please for other stuff too, especially containers. Make containers openable in POS hangars.

Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#170 - 2012-05-06 13:49:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Doctor Ungabungas
Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:
Is this about miners or bots? If there were no bots, would there still be all this hate for roid gnawers?


People are always going to pick on players who can't fit tanks.

And the reality is, if hulks were given more slots for tanking, players would just fill them with more mining mods.
Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#171 - 2012-05-06 13:50:02 UTC
Andski wrote:
hey guys remember when Sreegs showed the percentages of bots banned by region

remember how the lion's share of them were in hisec

that was hilarious



Everytime someone mentions 70% of characters being high sec players, I then read how the vast majority of people in high sec are really alts of 0.0 people etc

You 0.0 types really should knock off the bot mining in high sec it's wrong Ugh
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#172 - 2012-05-06 13:50:56 UTC
Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:
Is this about miners or bots? If there were no bots, would there still be all this hate for roid gnawers?


Only for miners that act like bots.
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#173 - 2012-05-06 13:51:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
Trit being the huge earner that it is, it makes plenty of sense that 'botters' in 0.0 would abandon their great mineral sources for ****** ones.




It's not a hug ISK earner, and I now see that you have no idea how all this works (which explains your ludicrous counter arguments) Supercapitals req massive amounts of trit, we are talking about billions and billions of units of tritium to generate a constant flow of capitals and supercapital production. The best way to get all of that trit is to farm all day in the safety of empire... all the live long day.



It is not about ISK, it is about the uninterrupted yield.
* Eternum educates a probie goon.

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Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
#174 - 2012-05-06 13:52:48 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Ludi Burek wrote:
...


I read in another thread that someone was upset he couldn't make a gay looking avatar, he obviously hasn't seen yours Shocked


I can't tell if you're trying to insult me with this but I actually thank you for noticing my creative efforts. Big smile Eve avatars are serious business, more so than eve itself!
Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#175 - 2012-05-06 13:53:28 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
Trit being the huge earner that it is, it makes plenty of sense that 'botters' in 0.0 would abandon their great mineral sources for ****** ones.




It's not a hug ISK earner, and I now see that you have no idea how all this works (which explains your ludicrous counter arguments) Supercapitals req massive amounts of trit, we are talking about billions and billions of units of tritium to generate a constant flow of capitals and supercapital production. They best way to get all of that trit is to farm all day in the safety of empire... all the live long day.



It is not about ISK, it is about the uninterrupted yield.
* Eternum educates a probie goon.


We have trit in 0.0 too. Veldspar as far as the eye can see, and you don't need to compress and move it.

Thanks for teaching me about supercapital production though, you have certainly educated me as to what goes into making a supercapital class space vessel.
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#176 - 2012-05-06 13:54:15 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:

When I'm in warp, they're going pop. Doesn't matter if they're aligned (lol) or have warp core stabs or reinforced bulkheads. Before I go in warp I know how they're fit, where they're aligned to (if) and how much dps (within +/- 5%) it will take to kill them.


The only thing that's an argument against is ship scanners, maybe.
Whitehound
#177 - 2012-05-06 13:54:56 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
Trit being the huge earner that it is, it makes plenty of sense that 'botters' in 0.0 would abandon their great mineral sources for ****** ones.




It's not a hug ISK earner, and I now see that you have no idea how all this works (which explains your ludicrous counter arguments) Supercapitals req massive amounts of trit, we are talking about billions and billions of units of tritium to generate a constant flow of capitals and supercapital production. The best way to get all of that trit is to farm all day in the safety of empire... all the live long day.



It is not about ISK, it is about the uninterrupted yield.
* Eternum educates a probie goon.

Oh noes, Eternum desdoyed pic of high-sects n00bs. Naw ther all segret 0.0 blobblers. Oops

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.

Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#178 - 2012-05-06 13:55:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:


We have trit in 0.0 too. Veldspar as far as the eye can see, and you don't need to compress and move it.

Thanks for teaching me about supercapital production though, you have certainly educated me as to what goes into making a supercapital class space vessel.



You do have veld out there yes, but you don't want to spend all of that time mining it. It is better if you AFK large botting fleets in empire that do not have to worry about reds in system. The trit is then compressed by manufacturing capital ship size ammo, and then it is jump-freighted to nullsec to be reprocessed back into trit.




This way all you have to do is mine the high ends. The bots do all of the long term monotonous work for you in empire. Pulling a billion units of trit is hard work yo.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#179 - 2012-05-06 13:56:55 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
Trit being the huge earner that it is, it makes plenty of sense that 'botters' in 0.0 would abandon their great mineral sources for ****** ones.




It's not a hug ISK earner, and I now see that you have no idea how all this works (which explains your ludicrous counter arguments) Supercapitals req massive amounts of trit, we are talking about billions and billions of units of tritium to generate a constant flow of capitals and supercapital production. The best way to get all of that trit is to farm all day in the safety of empire... all the live long day.



It is not about ISK, it is about the uninterrupted yield.
* Eternum educates a probie goon.


You understand that we have been buying all of the minerals we need for supercapital production rather than making any attempt to mine them ourselves, right?

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#180 - 2012-05-06 13:57:17 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:


We have trit in 0.0 too. Veldspar as far as the eye can see, and you don't need to compress and move it.

Thanks for teaching me about supercapital production though, you have certainly educated me as to what goes into making a supercapital class space vessel.



You do have veld out there yes, but you don't want to spend all of that time mining it. It is better if you AFK large botting fleets in empire that do not have to worry about reds in system. The trit is then compressed by manufacturing capital ship size ammo, and then it is jump-freighted to nullsec to be reprocessed back into trit.




This way all you have to do is mine the high ends. The bots do all of the leg work for you in empire. Pulling a billion units of trit is hard work yo.


But you haven't explained to me why this mythical bot army can't do the same job in 0.0 where, as I said, you don't have to compress and move it. Because the thing about trit is that you can't compress it without the high ends as well.