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Players of high sec - CCP is trolling you and laughing while doing it. A proposition.
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Thomas Orca
Broski is ded
#481 - 2012-05-06 22:03:04 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:


Sorry, but I would never join any corp which uses terms such as, aspie, sperg, pubbie etc.

The use of such terms lets down the user far more than it could ever insult the intended target.

I am for too old for such childish school ground nonsense.


I take it you don't like **** jokes, either?
Josef Djugashvilis
#482 - 2012-05-06 22:03:17 UTC
Thomas Kreshant wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:


When I grow up I want to be the first female president!


Interesting, I never wanted to be anything.


I never wanted to be anything.

I got my wish.

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Josef Djugashvilis
#483 - 2012-05-06 22:05:36 UTC
Thomas Orca wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:


Sorry, but I would never join any corp which uses terms such as, aspie, sperg, pubbie etc.

The use of such terms lets down the user far more than it could ever insult the intended target.

I am for too old for such childish school ground nonsense.


I take it you don't like **** jokes, either?



Do not know any asterisk jokes, so I do not know if I am for or against them.

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#484 - 2012-05-06 22:08:18 UTC
let's get lectured about class by a guy who named himself after a murderous dictator
Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#485 - 2012-05-06 22:18:05 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
murderous dictator


You say those words like that's a bad thing to be.
Shea Valerien
House of Valerien
#486 - 2012-05-06 22:18:52 UTC
Eryn Velasquez wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
So tell me people of null and low sec with your camped gates and well protected play areas - how is where you play any different than the people that play in high sec?


Null sec "play areas" are protected by players. High sec is protected by an omnipresent and omnipotent NPC police...


Protection would mean, Concord/Navy/Faction Police kills criminals with >-5 secstatus before they gank somebody.


This fix would make sense to me. If you have a reputation as a pirate, it would be similar to a few hundred years ago on the high seas where known pirates were taken down by any Navy in the world - shoot first and try them later. If your sec status is -5 or below, you're either a pirate or a griefer.. or you hunt in low-sec (and IMO, there should no sec loss for attacking in low-sec). So Concord should blast you on sight. It always amazes me when I see people with -10 status sitting around unmolested by Concord in high sec zones. If you have an alt that you've used to grief to that point, then you should have to spend a lot of time ratting in low or nullsec to recover the security to enter high-sec again.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#487 - 2012-05-06 22:20:48 UTC
Shea Valerien wrote:
Eryn Velasquez wrote:
Aruken Marr wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
So tell me people of null and low sec with your camped gates and well protected play areas - how is where you play any different than the people that play in high sec?


Null sec "play areas" are protected by players. High sec is protected by an omnipresent and omnipotent NPC police...


Protection would mean, Concord/Navy/Faction Police kills criminals with >-5 secstatus before they gank somebody.


This fix would make sense to me. If you have a reputation as a pirate, it would be similar to a few hundred years ago on the high seas where known pirates were taken down by any Navy in the world - shoot first and try them later. If your sec status is -5 or below, you're either a pirate or a griefer.. or you hunt in low-sec (and IMO, there should no sec loss for attacking in low-sec). So Concord should blast you on sight. It always amazes me when I see people with -10 status sitting around unmolested by Concord in high sec zones. If you have an alt that you've used to grief to that point, then you should have to spend a lot of time ratting in low or nullsec to recover the security to enter high-sec again.


Concord historically is only a punishing force. It isn't there to protect anyone, it's there to intimidate the potential pirates with the loss of their ship.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#488 - 2012-05-06 22:41:07 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Concord historically is only a punishing force. It isn't there to protect anyone, it's there to intimidate the potential pirates with the loss of their ship.

They and they must track every bullet fired in highsec. Quite a challenge, I would imagine.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Josef Djugashvilis
#489 - 2012-05-06 22:43:53 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
let's get lectured about class by a guy who named himself after a murderous dictator


wiki is your friend huh Smile

Best summary I have eaver heard of Uncle Joe.

He was a murdering b**t**d who built some factories.

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TheButcherPete
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#490 - 2012-05-06 22:53:31 UTC
@ OP

Can I have your stuff when you quit?

If you feel that 0.0 is safer, why the f*ck aren't you living there yet?

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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#491 - 2012-05-06 23:09:42 UTC
TheButcherPete wrote:
@ OP

Can I have your stuff when you quit?

If you feel that 0.0 is safer, why the f*ck aren't you living there yet?


From what I was told earlier in the thread, nullsec is boring. Or they aren't interested in taking space from Goonswarm.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#492 - 2012-05-06 23:25:11 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:

From what I was told earlier in the thread, nullsec is boring. Or they aren't interested in taking space from Goonswarm.


close enough I guess Big smile
Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#493 - 2012-05-06 23:33:12 UTC
why the **** does this thread have 25 pages, jesus christ, everyone chill the hell out.

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#494 - 2012-05-06 23:36:32 UTC
Alexa Coates wrote:
why the **** does this thread have 25 pages, jesus christ, everyone chill the hell out.


Mostly because I'm posting alot and no need to fret I'm fine chilling isn't required.
Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
#495 - 2012-05-06 23:50:37 UTC
Andski wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
empire dwellers now realizing after 5 years that their endless injection of low-end minerals went somewhere


they seem to think that all those buy orders are from NPCs



I am pretty sure most of them do.
Merrc
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#496 - 2012-05-06 23:54:57 UTC
Many of the older industrial players feel sympathetic to the newer ones...especially the ones who have several accounts with TII bpos, because quite frankly the things are isk printing presses. Once you acquire several trillion isk worth of items you begin to do odd things, playing Jita like the craps table etc.etc. One of the odder things is you do is sit back and profit from all the high sec killing going on. The null corps no longer fight like they used to so anytime ships are being destroyed (even in High sec) the isk keeps turning. I could care less about mining at this point...but i do recall what it was like to grind the ore to make ithe 1st bship or the 1st billion, and I feel newer players should be given the same opportunity older ones had, be it new ships or whatever. There will never be equilibrium but a fighting chance seems sporting. The sandbox is getting a bit crowded at this point, some of the kids have grown into adults or at worst juvenille delinquents, maybe a bigger playground or more supervision...i dunno.

What?
Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#497 - 2012-05-07 00:02:57 UTC
Ludi Burek wrote:
Andski wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
empire dwellers now realizing after 5 years that their endless injection of low-end minerals went somewhere


they seem to think that all those buy orders are from NPCs



I am pretty sure most of them do.


I'm pretty sure they don't really care one way or another where they go.
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#498 - 2012-05-07 00:16:58 UTC
Ludi Burek wrote:
Null sec risk, is risk taken on willingly. High sec "risk" is taken on unknowingly by choosing to be totally oblivious to the world you live in.


Hey Lando, Nulsec risk only exists in certain places, and certainly not in the choicest and juiciest regions of nulsec.

But I digress...the OP said one thing I want to correct. Losec does have risk, I'd wager the most risk of all the regions in the game. No sovereignty to hide behind, no kill with no consequence (even if it is secstat loss), no safety without working for it.

Buff Losec, it more than deserves it and it's time for it has come.
"If."
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#499 - 2012-05-07 00:43:25 UTC
Ludi Burek wrote:
Andski wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
empire dwellers now realizing after 5 years that their endless injection of low-end minerals went somewhere

they seem to think that all those buy orders are from NPCs

I am pretty sure most of them do.

Well NPC seeding used to happen a decent amount in the past, right?

I don't just mean stuff like refining shuttles.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Tech3ZH
Doomheim
#500 - 2012-05-07 01:07:31 UTC
malaire wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
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So...it's up to you. You the pilots, traders, industrialist, miners and salvagers of high sec to take a stand if you wish to see high sec become less of the killing grounds that they are.
...

I am highsec trader and I do not care how dangerous it is to fly here. I do not fly here, I just use courier contracts to outsource the risk of getting ganked.

So for me there is nothing which needs to be fixed. Big smile



Well....I think people can play this game however they want, so if that's fun for you....ok....seems a bit boring, but whatever...it's not all that dangerous to fly around....a little risk spices up the game anyhow...