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Players of high sec - CCP is trolling you and laughing while doing it. A proposition.
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Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#341 - 2012-05-06 15:46:26 UTC
Thomas Kreshant wrote:
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:

So be quiet while the grown ups are dealing with the problem.


Sure when do they arrive and when are you going to stop being to trolled into a never ending thread by Eternum?


When I get bored, obviously. I can't make the jump clone timer move any faster by looking at it.
Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#342 - 2012-05-06 15:46:58 UTC
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
No one said they are all null sec alts, you made that up.


"That is because highsec is where the nullsec bot alts go to pull cosmic **** tons of trit. Oh snap! I put egg on your face.... sorry."


Right here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1254971#post1254971



I see no egg, never did I say ALL, only you did.
* Flings poop back at the doctor.

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Doctor Ungabungas
Doomheim
#343 - 2012-05-06 15:47:39 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
(Mine ABC in null, it's more fun).


See. This is the kind of mentality we have to deal with every day in GSF.

Fortunately I have prepared a short course on 'Why mining isn't fun' which will be compulsory reading for all newbees. I suspect the already indoctrinated goons will have to be shot.

I'm so sorry. :smith:
Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#344 - 2012-05-06 15:47:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Thomas Kreshant
Doctor Ungabungas wrote:

When I get bored, obviously. I can't make the jump clone timer move any faster by looking at it.


They should double the length of the timer if not more but that's an argument in a different thread at the moment.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#345 - 2012-05-06 15:48:12 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
You however have not posed any valid counter argument against null sec alts botting low ends


We did. For example:

  • grinding ISK in nullsec to buy minerals with is a far better option (since pubbies will macromine those lowends anyway)
  • it makes no sense to farm lowends in hisec when you have access to far, far better income in nullsec through membership in a sovholding alliance

    • hmm, those are pretty valid to me!

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    Doctor Ungabungas
    Doomheim
    #346 - 2012-05-06 15:48:45 UTC
    Eternum Praetorian wrote:
    Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
    Eternum Praetorian wrote:
    No one said they are all null sec alts, you made that up.


    "That is because highsec is where the nullsec bot alts go to pull cosmic **** tons of trit. Oh snap! I put egg on your face.... sorry."


    Right here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1254971#post1254971



    I see no egg, never did I say ALL, only you did.
    * Flings poop back at the doctor.


    But the logic is against -any- 0.0 players being stupid enough to kill their isk/hr to go mine in high sec. I mean, I'm sure one or two do, but we're trying to save as many as we can.
    Doctor Ungabungas
    Doomheim
    #347 - 2012-05-06 15:49:54 UTC
    Thomas Kreshant wrote:
    Doctor Ungabungas wrote:

    When I get bored, obviously. I can't make the jump clone timer move any faster by looking at it.


    They should double the length of the timer if not more but that's an argument in a different thread at the moment.


    The timer should either be removed or the jump clone system should be removed.

    Back before the jump clone system you 'lived' in constellation and it was yours. It's sad that it's not the case anymore.
    Eternum Praetorian
    Doomheim
    #348 - 2012-05-06 15:51:50 UTC
    Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
    Eternum Praetorian wrote:
    Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
    Eternum Praetorian wrote:
    No one said they are all null sec alts, you made that up.


    "That is because highsec is where the nullsec bot alts go to pull cosmic **** tons of trit. Oh snap! I put egg on your face.... sorry."


    Right here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1254971#post1254971



    I see no egg, never did I say ALL, only you did.
    * Flings poop back at the doctor.


    But the logic is against -any- 0.0 players being stupid enough to kill their isk/hr to go mine in high sec. I mean, I'm sure one or two do, but we're trying to save as many as we can.



    It simply is not, and I gave ample reasons why.
    But by all means, keep making Blah Blah.... that, I admit, you are quite good at.

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    Thomas Kreshant
    Brutor Tribe
    Minmatar Republic
    #349 - 2012-05-06 15:52:12 UTC
    Doctor Ungabungas wrote:


    The timer should either be removed or the jump clone system should be removed.
    Back before the jump clone system you 'lived' in constellation and it was yours. It's sad that it's not the case anymore.


    I'd not disagree to removing them to be honest but I'd also remove Jump Bridges and give all capital drives a spin up time of 5 minutes before they can jump.
    Andski
    Science and Trade Institute
    Caldari State
    #350 - 2012-05-06 15:52:41 UTC
    Eternum Praetorian wrote:
    It simply is not, and I gave ample reasons why.
    But by all means, keep making Blah Blah.... that, I admit, you are quite good at.


    Your reasoning was blown out of the water earlier in this thread. Please repeat those reasons, I want to do it again!

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    Doctor Ungabungas
    Doomheim
    #351 - 2012-05-06 15:53:19 UTC
    Eternum Praetorian wrote:

    It simply is not, and I gave ample reasons why.
    But by all means, keep making Blah Blah.... that, I admit, you are quite good at.


    And we gave ample reasons why you are wrong:


    • grinding ISK in nullsec to buy minerals with is a far better option (since pubbies will macromine those lowends anyway)
    • it makes no sense to farm lowends in hisec when you have access to far, far better income in nullsec through membership in a sovholding alliance


    I will cut and paste from my esteemed colleague here because I am exceptionally lazy.
    Doctor Ungabungas
    Doomheim
    #352 - 2012-05-06 15:54:20 UTC
    Thomas Kreshant wrote:
    Doctor Ungabungas wrote:


    The timer should either be removed or the jump clone system should be removed.
    Back before the jump clone system you 'lived' in constellation and it was yours. It's sad that it's not the case anymore.


    I'd not disagree to removing them to be honest but I'd also remove Jump Bridges and give all capital drives a spin up time of 5 minutes before they can jump.


    It might be time to take this discussion over to the other thread, I don't disagree but I expect a lot of people will and it will be PRIME DISCUSSION MATERIAL.
    Josef Djugashvilis
    #353 - 2012-05-06 15:54:56 UTC
    Andski wrote:
    Eternum Praetorian wrote:
    You however have not posed any valid counter argument against null sec alts botting low ends


    We did. For example:

  • grinding ISK in nullsec to buy minerals with is a far better option (since pubbies will macromine those lowends anyway)
  • it makes no sense to farm lowends in hisec when you have access to far, far better income in nullsec through membership in a sovholding alliance

    • hmm, those are pretty valid to me!


    Andski, you really should drop the 'pubbies' bit, it just makes you seem like an annoying seven year old who has found a new word to use.

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    Herping yourDerp
    Tribal Liberation Force
    Minmatar Republic
    #354 - 2012-05-06 15:55:34 UTC
    maybe if mining wasn't the most boring thing to do in any game in the universe people wouldn't afk through it....

    give mining ships 2000 more shield and 1000 more armor.
    make the procruer useful, no one uses it, same with the skiff

    moon mining should be removed and replaced with anything else, OR allow moon mining in highsec to remove the power from nullblocks
    yes hulks should be gankable, its stupid for them no to be, but it shouldn't be 1destroyer, or 1 cruiser gankable in highsec.
    Polly Oxford
    Deep Core Mining Inc.
    Caldari State
    #355 - 2012-05-06 15:55:36 UTC
    Eternum Praetorian wrote:
    Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
    Eternum Praetorian wrote:
    Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
    Eternum Praetorian wrote:
    No one said they are all null sec alts, you made that up.


    "That is because highsec is where the nullsec bot alts go to pull cosmic **** tons of trit. Oh snap! I put egg on your face.... sorry."


    Right here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1254971#post1254971



    I see no egg, never did I say ALL, only you did.
    * Flings poop back at the doctor.


    But the logic is against -any- 0.0 players being stupid enough to kill their isk/hr to go mine in high sec. I mean, I'm sure one or two do, but we're trying to save as many as we can.



    It simply is not, and I gave ample reasons why.
    But by all means, keep making Blah Blah.... that, I admit, you are quite good at.



    Yougave us no reasonthat it's valid so far. Your pubbiebots farmenough trit for it's to buy, why wouldn't we just make much more money ratting with a tengu plus carrier?
    Eternum Praetorian
    Doomheim
    #356 - 2012-05-06 15:57:18 UTC
    Andski wrote:
    Eternum Praetorian wrote:
    It simply is not, and I gave ample reasons why.
    But by all means, keep making Blah Blah.... that, I admit, you are quite good at.


    Your reasoning was blown out of the water earlier in this thread. Please repeat those reasons, I want to do it again!




    Actually we went on for two pages with you seemingly unaware of what I was even talking about. Whatever it is that you are smoking that makes you feel superior, maybe you should market it.

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    Andski
    Science and Trade Institute
    Caldari State
    #357 - 2012-05-06 15:57:18 UTC
    Herping yourDerp wrote:
    OR allow moon mining in highsec to remove the power from nullblocks


    ahahahaha no

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    Eternum Praetorian
    Doomheim
    #358 - 2012-05-06 15:58:26 UTC
    Andski wrote:
    Herping yourDerp wrote:
    OR allow moon mining in highsec to remove the power from nullblocks


    ahahahaha no



    Goon says derp.
    The world goes meh.

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    Andski
    Science and Trade Institute
    Caldari State
    #359 - 2012-05-06 15:58:39 UTC
    Eternum Praetorian wrote:
    Actually we went on for two pages with you seemingly unaware of what I was even talking about. Whatever it is that you are smoking that makes you feel superior, maybe you should market it.


    so you're going ~puppetmasta~ now

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    Doctor Ungabungas
    Doomheim
    #360 - 2012-05-06 15:59:27 UTC
    Herping yourDerp wrote:
    maybe if mining wasn't the most boring thing to do in any game in the universe people wouldn't afk through it....

    give mining ships 2000 more shield and 1000 more armor.
    make the procruer useful, no one uses it, same with the skiff

    moon mining should be removed and replaced with anything else, OR allow moon mining in highsec to remove the power from nullblocks
    yes hulks should be gankable, its stupid for them no to be, but it shouldn't be 1destroyer, or 1 cruiser gankable in highsec.


    I really hope ring mining will be a low-sec activity. It would be good to give low-sec a bit of a push financially.

    And I don't think anyone would really object to adding a few more shields to a hulk, but it won't solve the problem. People will just bring a cruiser instead. Or a battleship.