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What are the Drake changes?
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ReptilesBlade
Space Wolves ind.
Solyaris Chtonium
#1 - 2012-05-06 06:13:59 UTC
What are the changes supposed to be for the Drake and when are they supposed to hit?

Will that make the ship better or worse?
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#2 - 2012-05-06 06:16:17 UTC
Less tank, more dps is what I understand. When? Dunno.

Better or worse? That's a point of view.
I see EVE sliding and everything that remotely looks like a tank being nerfed out so I see it as bad but I'm used to not seeing eye to eye with CCP.

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Marcus Harikari
#3 - 2012-05-06 06:31:20 UTC
There will not be any changes to the drake.
Marcus Harikari
#4 - 2012-05-06 06:32:10 UTC
Ioci wrote:
Less tank, more dps is what I understand. When? Dunno.

Better or worse? That's a point of view.
I see EVE sliding and everything that remotely looks like a tank being nerfed out so I see it as bad but I'm used to not seeing eye to eye with CCP.

yes all ships must be exactly the same except with different names and weapon systems, even though the weapon systems act identical. speaking of which, when are missiles going to get cap useage? Roll
malaire
#5 - 2012-05-06 06:38:26 UTC
Marcus Harikari wrote:
There will not be any changes to the drake.

But there will be. Drake will get awesome(tm) Missile Launchers really soon(tm). Big smile

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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#6 - 2012-05-06 06:39:48 UTC
Marcus Harikari wrote:
yes all ships must be exactly the same except with different names and weapon systems, even though the weapon systems act identical. speaking of which, when are missiles going to get cap useage? Roll

The day autocannons & artillery get cap usage, so hopefully never. Missiles have both great advantages as severe disadvantages. If they would use cap, it would put them too much into disadvantage.

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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#7 - 2012-05-06 06:49:02 UTC
Marcus Harikari wrote:
Ioci wrote:
Less tank, more dps is what I understand. When? Dunno.

Better or worse? That's a point of view.
I see EVE sliding and everything that remotely looks like a tank being nerfed out so I see it as bad but I'm used to not seeing eye to eye with CCP.

yes all ships must be exactly the same except with different names and weapon systems, even though the weapon systems act identical. speaking of which, when are missiles going to get cap useage? Roll


I have no idea how the hell you gleamed that from what I said but head on back to whatever obliviot mindset got you there. Far be it for me to shake you out of that place of solitude.

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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#8 - 2012-05-06 06:55:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
Ioci wrote:
Less tank, more dps is what I understand. When? Dunno.




cause as we saw with the new tier 3 BCs, Battlecruisers in this game arent meant to HAVE tanks

Marcus Harikari wrote:
Ioci wrote:
Less tank, more dps is what I understand. When? Dunno.

Better or worse? That's a point of view.
I see EVE sliding and everything that remotely looks like a tank being nerfed out so I see it as bad but I'm used to not seeing eye to eye with CCP.

yes all ships must be exactly the same except with different names and weapon systems, even though the weapon systems act identical. speaking of which, when are missiles going to get cap useage? Roll


Dont forget the ability to miss

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
#9 - 2012-05-06 07:05:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Ioci
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Ioci wrote:
Less tank, more dps is what I understand. When? Dunno.




cause as we saw with the new tier 3 BCs, Battlecruisers in this game arent meant to HAVE tanks

Marcus Harikari wrote:
Ioci wrote:
Less tank, more dps is what I understand. When? Dunno.

Better or worse? That's a point of view.
I see EVE sliding and everything that remotely looks like a tank being nerfed out so I see it as bad but I'm used to not seeing eye to eye with CCP.

yes all ships must be exactly the same except with different names and weapon systems, even though the weapon systems act identical. speaking of which, when are missiles going to get cap useage? Roll


Dont forget the ability to miss


No. As we saw with Tier 3 Battlecruisers, CCP don't want battle cruiser to have tank now. Or frigates, or cruisers or T2 Battleships or most Battleship fits.

When the EHP on the last subcap tank (the Command ship) is in the sights of the mighty nerf bat we can ask again why everyone is in Capitals. A fighter bomber has over 150% EHP of a Black Ops battleship. Because that makes sense.

- A T1 Harbinger also has more EHP than a Redeemer. So much for the tankless battlecruiser. I'm sure they will "rebalance" that soon too.

R.I.P. Vile Rat
Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-05-06 08:33:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Joran Dravius
Marcus Harikari wrote:
There will not be any changes to the drake.

According to the devs there will. Stop making **** up. It's getting a DPS bonus of some kind, though I forget exactly what. It's also getting a missile velocity bonus.

Antisocial Malkavian wrote:

cause as we saw with the new tier 3 BCs, Battlecruisers in this game arent meant to HAVE tanks

Some are keeping their tank bonus. The myrmidon and prophecy for example. They're meant to have tanks. They're just not meant to have ridiculously OP tanks. Besides, people are always bitching that missiles have low DPS.

Ioci wrote:
No. As we saw with Tier 3 Battlecruisers, CCP don't want battle cruiser to have tank now.

That might have something to do with them using battleships weapons. Just saying.
Michael1995
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#11 - 2012-05-06 09:12:58 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:


Dont forget the ability to miss


They should bring back the 10% dodge for ninj... sorry wrong game.

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Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-05-06 09:13:43 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
Some time between yesterday and the heat death of the universe. Sorry I can't be more specific.


They have said battlecruiser as a whole need a nerf as they're too good a ship class but I'd not expect any changes until they've done the ship balance/redesign of frigs, destroyers and cruisers.
Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-05-06 09:15:43 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:


Dont forget the ability to miss


Not missing but Inferno does have a missile nerf with tracking disruptors affecting them on SISI as they said they would.
Nate Hill
Rocket No. 9
#14 - 2012-05-06 09:51:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Nate Hill
Much more ugly just like digging holes in a coffin board.Cry

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-05-06 10:05:06 UTC
Marcus Harikari wrote:
There will not be any changes to the drake.


You forgot the jedi hand-movement ...
c4 t
Cosmic Psychedelics
#16 - 2012-05-06 10:15:45 UTC
Funny how a ship that has been in the game for 9 years is getting heat now.
Lt Angus
Goat Herders
#17 - 2012-05-06 10:22:47 UTC
c4 t wrote:
Funny how a ship that has been in the game for 9 years is getting heat now.


which ship would that be?
Mono Ethanolamine
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-05-06 10:32:53 UTC
Remain the same. CCP should focus more on the destroyer.
c4 t
Cosmic Psychedelics
#19 - 2012-05-06 10:54:01 UTC
Lt Angus wrote:
c4 t wrote:
Funny how a ship that has been in the game for 9 years is getting heat now.


which ship would that be?


Maybe I'm off by ~1-2 years?
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#20 - 2012-05-06 11:25:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
Ioci wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Ioci wrote:
Less tank, more dps is what I understand. When? Dunno.




cause as we saw with the new tier 3 BCs, Battlecruisers in this game arent meant to HAVE tanks

Marcus Harikari wrote:
Ioci wrote:
Less tank, more dps is what I understand. When? Dunno.

Better or worse? That's a point of view.
I see EVE sliding and everything that remotely looks like a tank being nerfed out so I see it as bad but I'm used to not seeing eye to eye with CCP.

yes all ships must be exactly the same except with different names and weapon systems, even though the weapon systems act identical. speaking of which, when are missiles going to get cap useage? Roll


Dont forget the ability to miss


No. As we saw with Tier 3 Battlecruisers, CCP don't want battle cruiser to have tank now. Or frigates, or cruisers or T2 Battleships or most Battleship fits.

When the EHP on the last subcap tank (the Command ship) is in the sights of the mighty nerf bat we can ask again why everyone is in Capitals. A fighter bomber has over 150% EHP of a Black Ops battleship. Because that makes sense.

- A T1 Harbinger also has more EHP than a Redeemer. So much for the tankless battlecruiser. I'm sure they will "rebalance" that soon too.


Sorry, meant in PVE :p
Cause as Ive heard the Tier 3 BCs are MEANT to be gank platfor- heeey THATS it. Its not that they gave to tank its that theyre being used in the wrong roles

Thomas Kreshant:
Not missing but Inferno does have a missile nerf with tracking disruptors affecting them on SISI as they said they would.



Yeah cause they want ppl to fly missiles obviously lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

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