Market Discussions

Hey everyone,

Some of you may remember my precursor thread https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104217 if anything this is proof you shouldnt trust anyone, especially not me in these matter.

Even so after sevral attempts to get goons (Yes core, im looking at you) to hand over their number I made a spreadsheet of my own. Bear in mind, you should not trust me, however if you chose to trust the numbers (From CCP) and whats been derived from them thats another matter. All references have been provided.

There is a huge part in this spreadsheet detailing ship production, however due to the fact that not all of these numbers could be determined accuratly I have chosen not to put much credit in them. Regardless its in there have a look.

The most interesting part is probably the refining totalt + the mined totals (before and after inferno). The assumptions made are simple, lack of minerals post patch is (refined total - mined before - delta mined). This stems from the fact that post inferno the rest of the refine ( refined total - mined total ) should be what comes from other sources. There are obvious pitfalls here like the fact that you can refine produced goods so keep that in mind. Delta mined is (mined after - mined before).

Enjoy!

soldiers 5 on this one?

I'd be lying if I didn't say the Zydrine 'flash crash' didn't give me an 'oh s-hit' moment. If the fundamentals haven't changed then it must be a case of stockpiles and profit taking, with a healthy dose of market manipulation thrown in. I can't possible imagine there is an oversupply of Zydrine right now (after the drone regions and meta 0 has been nerfed), in fact I'm betting on it... So far it's been a good bet, I just can't see right now where the story ends.

Holding a rather large (for me) pile of Zyd. I was, I admit, getting the fear and urge to dump what I had. That's usually the time to do just the opposite of what you want to do so I picked up a couple of more million at around 1,380 ISK before it spiked back to 1,600. Holding one's nerve is half the fun of it.

Don't know what you lads are doing but it's one hell of a ride .

Oh the tears, so lets break it down:

The goon is saying my ship numbers are off, the ship numbers I said to ignore since it was hard to find actual data to fill it all out.

The other guy is complaining about lack of sources, there is a seperate tab dedicated to references. Its all derived from those.

As a matter of fact none of the "lack" data relies in any way on the ships or estimates for consumption, if you read my first post its all explained.

Yuki, these are suppose to be numbers comparing before & after "Escalation to Inferno" patch right?

Maybe I'm getting my data wrong or I'm confusing stuff but ...

"Escalation to Inferno" was released on Tuesday, April 24, 2012.

CCP Diagora's Tweets were posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2012.

So I don't believe his "Last 7 days" stats could possibly include the drone poo nerf introduced with Escalation. (at best it includes 24-48 hours worth of Escalation data)

Am I missing something?

The selling pressure on Zydrine today has been quite heavy and that sell order for 18,000,000 @ 1499.99 sort of stands out (at least it does right now). Seems to be a nice battle going on...

I dont know but we need some more people hauling orders around. But seems that I misplaced my Freighterr somewhere. but if we get more curculation going we can find a better price faster. the bubble has not popped yet.

Megacyte:

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Well what I found out when I took that screen shot (some days ago) is that Mega had hit a top and inverted downwards. When I'll have time to log in I'll check where price has gone since then but it could hit the stated target of around 2500 before taking a decision to keep diving down or bounce back up.

Ive found some of the ship numbers (obviously), feel free to link if you have more :)