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(Proposal) Cloaky reds in system & Macro miners in Eve, how to make life harder for them.

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Tiger's Spirit
Templars of the Shadows
#41 - 2012-05-14 09:10:37 UTC
Jint Hikaru wrote:
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
Jint Hikaru wrote:
Only solution is delayed local, or remove cloakers from local (real cloaking)


Bullsh*t.
Delaying local or removing cloakers from local just more help for cloaky fags.
More riskfree advantages for cloakers.





Sorry, I forgot that this topic was about making zero security space, more risk free!


Sorry i forgot, you are riskfree coward cloaker.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#42 - 2012-05-14 09:34:05 UTC
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
Jint Hikaru wrote:
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
Jint Hikaru wrote:
Only solution is delayed local, or remove cloakers from local (real cloaking)


Bullsh*t.
Delaying local or removing cloakers from local just more help for cloaky fags.
More riskfree advantages for cloakers.





Sorry, I forgot that this topic was about making zero security space, more risk free!


Sorry i forgot, you are riskfree coward cloaker.


You know, I'd say the bigger coward is the one crying all over the forums about how a player who is not even at their keyboard is ruining things for them.

Show me a killmail, any killmail, from anyone, anywhere in EVE, who was killed by an AFK player.
Hun Jakuza
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-05-14 09:54:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Hun Jakuza
Danika Princip wrote:
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
Jint Hikaru wrote:
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
Jint Hikaru wrote:
Only solution is delayed local, or remove cloakers from local (real cloaking)


Bullsh*t.
Delaying local or removing cloakers from local just more help for cloaky fags.
More riskfree advantages for cloakers.





Sorry, I forgot that this topic was about making zero security space, more risk free!


Sorry i forgot, you are riskfree coward cloaker.


You know, I'd say the bigger coward is the one crying all over the forums about how a player who is not even at their keyboard is ruining things for them.

Show me a killmail, any killmail, from anyone, anywhere in EVE, who was killed by an AFK player.


You know i'd say the bigger idiot the one who talking idiot things over the forum without experience like you.
She didn't talk about AFK killers, that's your ridiculous dream. She talked about AFK players who terrorizing others without play.
You are a moron if you dont understand that.

Tell to me. Do you know who cloaking and waiting you at anomaly in cloak or just went to AFK ? No, you don't know.
If you are alone in system with a cloaker you will go farming ? If you have brain, you won't go. So, an AFK cloaker can disturb and terrorize active players who want to play.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#44 - 2012-05-14 11:47:47 UTC
Hun Jakuza wrote:

Tell to me. Do you know who cloaking and waiting you at anomaly in cloak or just went to AFK ? No, you don't know.
If you are alone in system with a cloaker you will go farming ? If you have brain, you won't go. So, an AFK cloaker can disturb and terrorize active players who want to play.


Let me get this straight, you are saying that someone who is not at the computer will stop you from playing?



So once again, Remove Cloakers from Local.

If they are AFK then they are no threat, you dont see them and they can't do anything because AFK, you can go out into zero sec and carebear your hearts out.

If they are at their computers then you should be taking precautions anyway.... its Low/Zero Sec space FFS!!!!



What this always boils down to is, the zero sec bears, dont want cloaks at all in 'their' systems. So they come up with ways to nerf the cloak using 'AFK' as an excuse.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Hun Jakuza
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2012-05-14 12:19:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Hun Jakuza
Jint Hikaru wrote:
Hun Jakuza wrote:

Tell to me. Do you know who cloaking and waiting you at anomaly in cloak or just went to AFK ? No, you don't know.
If you are alone in system with a cloaker you will go farming ? If you have brain, you won't go. So, an AFK cloaker can disturb and terrorize active players who want to play.


Let me get this straight, you are saying that someone who is not at the computer will stop you from playing?



So once again, Remove Cloakers from Local.

If they are AFK then they are no threat, you dont see them and they can't do anything because AFK, you can go out into zero sec and carebear your hearts out.

If they are at their computers then you should be taking precautions anyway.... its Low/Zero Sec space FFS!!!!



What this always boils down to is, the zero sec bears, dont want cloaks at all in 'their' systems. So they come up with ways to nerf the cloak using 'AFK' as an excuse.


So once again. A cloaker alt hiding below this post : http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2892101 who know the truth. LOL

Write with your main, dont hiding like a cloaker f aggots.

Maybe you are a carebear crap pilot if arazu caught you in low sec mission, but i'm not a carebear pilot like you. I know how can terrorize peoples with AFK cloak, because i did many times.
So once again remove from idiot pilots from Eve like you and keep cloakers on local.
If you dont like it, go to WH and stfu.
Arduemont
The State of War.
#46 - 2012-05-14 12:52:51 UTC
Do these threads never end?

Each time these "Kill afkers" threads open they are kept alive by two or three people each time, and shot down continuously by everyone else that posts. If your not getting support you shouldn't keep posting the idea up. Its a waste of people's time, and a waste of good space on the first page of the assembly hall.

CCP are never going to want to place artificial restrictions on what you can and can not do like this. Because its unrealistic to think (in the event that internet spaceships were real and existed, etc etc etc), that a person wouldn't do what afk cloakies do now in-game. Its a perfectly valid form of warfare.

And lets not delude ourselves here. This has nothing to do with macrominers, because CCP would have no way to tell if they were afk because their accounts are still doing stuff.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

Tiger's Spirit
Templars of the Shadows
#47 - 2012-05-14 17:49:05 UTC
Arduemont wrote:
Do these threads never end?

Each time these "Kill afkers" threads open they are kept alive by two or three people each time, and shot down continuously by everyone else that posts. If your not getting support you shouldn't keep posting the idea up. Its a waste of people's time, and a waste of good space on the first page of the assembly hall.

CCP are never going to want to place artificial restrictions on what you can and can not do like this. Because its unrealistic to think (in the event that internet spaceships were real and existed, etc etc etc), that a person wouldn't do what afk cloakies do now in-game. Its a perfectly valid form of warfare.

And lets not delude ourselves here. This has nothing to do with macrominers, because CCP would have no way to tell if they were afk because their accounts are still doing stuff.



Up, just for you.
Gerrick Palivorn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-05-15 06:30:09 UTC
Hun Jakuza wrote:
You know i'd say the bigger idiot the one who talking idiot things over the forum without experience like you.
She didn't talk about AFK killers, that's your ridiculous dream. She talked about AFK players who terrorizing others without play.
You are a moron if you dont understand that.

Tell to me. Do you know who cloaking and waiting you at anomaly in cloak or just went to AFK ? No, you don't know.
If you are alone in system with a cloaker you will go farming ? If you have brain, you won't go. So, an AFK cloaker can disturb and terrorize active players who want to play.


Wait I'm confused, so you're not afraid of the AFK cloaker, you're afraid of the Cloaky killer?

Oh I get it now, you allow someone who may or may not be afk to dictate your actions because that person may or may not be waiting for you to start ratting alone so they can kill you. So what all this is about is someone that may or may not try to kill you at any given moment, aka you're afraid to lose ships but refuse to work in groups because that would cut into your profit margin.

Seriously the miners getting ganked in highsec right now have more guts than the 0.0 ratters, and they aren't even in combat ships or are allowed to defend themselves (they usually die before they can). The ironic thing is that most nullbears won't even risk a drake to an afk cloaker/killer, because that is to big of a loss for them.

MMOs come and go, but Eve remains.  -Garresh-

Hun Jakuza
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2012-05-15 08:59:52 UTC
Gerrick Palivorn wrote:
blabla



So, she is your other noob mindget alt, who hiding behind.
Oh you are expert, but wtf this ? http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=3972586 LOL
Do realy know what need to do with EVE, but you can't fitting a single ship.

Read my post and try again:

"You know i'd say the bigger idiot the one who talking idiot things over the forum without experience like you.
She didn't talk about AFK killers, that's your ridiculous dream. She talked about AFK players who terrorizing others without play.
You are a moron if you dont understand that.

Tell to me. Do you know who cloaking and waiting you at anomaly in cloak or just went to AFK ? No, you don't know.
If you are alone in system with a cloaker you will go farming ? If you have brain, you won't go. So, an AFK cloaker can disturb and terrorize active players who want to play."
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#50 - 2012-05-15 11:38:19 UTC
Ok, I was not going to bother replying to this thread as I was hoping it would die, but seeing as it has been bumped back to the top, I will address your post......

Hun Jakuza wrote:

So once again. A cloaker alt hiding below this post : http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2892101 who know the truth. LOL

Write with your main, dont hiding like a cloaker f aggots.

Maybe you are a carebear crap pilot if arazu caught you in low sec mission, but i'm not a carebear pilot like you. I know how can terrorize peoples with AFK cloak, because i did many times.
So once again remove from idiot pilots from Eve like you and keep cloakers on local.
If you dont like it, go to WH and stfu.



1. I dont understand how a killmail for a noncloaked Battleship that I lost in a 0.4 sec system to a gang over 3 years ago makes me a 'cloaker alt'????

2. This is my main, i always post with it. - Unlike yourself... it's pretty obvious that you "Hun Jakuza" and "Tiger's Spirit" are the same person. I guess at least this way you have one person agreeing with yourself on the forum.

3. Why are you opposed to AFK cloaking, call me a 'cloaker alt' and 'idiot pilot', yet you admit to being an AFK cloaker???
(for the record, I have NEVER AFK cloaked, I just believe that nerfing cloaks is not the solution to AFK cloaking)

Anyway, enjoy supporting and high-fiving yourself on the forums.
Fly safe!

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Hun Jakuza
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2012-05-15 15:48:22 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Spitfire
Please refrain from personal attacks. Spitfire
Evanga
DoctorOzz
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#52 - 2012-05-16 06:47:02 UTC
everybody, stop being useless by stop complaining about afk cloakers.

WE DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK

these are game mechanics and they work fine, as intended.
Dawn Flare
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2012-05-16 07:09:09 UTC
You know whats far worse than a cloaky camping your system?

Knowing that there are possible awoxers in your system!

You people make me ashamed to be a nullsec carebear. For the love of god, HTFU, and work in teams. Working with friends is more fun anyway. It might cut into your profits, but isn't the profit > basic precautions why we hate highsec miners so much?

In conclusion, people afraid of AFK cloakers are far worse than highsec miners who refuse to fit a tank on their hulk just because you went where you KNEW it was dangerous, but complain about it being dangerous anyway.
Tiger's Spirit
Templars of the Shadows
#54 - 2012-05-16 13:26:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiger's Spirit
Evanga wrote:
everybody, stop being useless by stop complaining about afk cloakers.

WE DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK

these are game mechanics and they work fine, as intended.


And we dont care what do you think!!!

The cloaking mechanics dont work fine, it's time to change with AFK tag, with Cloak cap/fuel usage, with unique "seek and destroy" type ship. Enough for riskfree afk cloaking.
Arduemont
The State of War.
#55 - 2012-05-16 13:34:34 UTC
By "we", you mean two or three serial complainers right?

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf

Tiger's Spirit
Templars of the Shadows
#56 - 2012-05-16 13:41:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiger's Spirit
Arduemont wrote:
By "we", you mean two or three serial complainers right?


By "we", mean the real players who know the truth from cloaking, and not you and few noob just as like you?
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2012-05-16 14:37:23 UTC
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
Arduemont wrote:
By "we", you mean two or three serial complainers right?


By "we", mean the real players who know the truth from cloaking, and not you and few noob just as like you?

You seem to be the only one who emo-rages at the site of an afk cloaker....

If anyone needs to be seriously ignored its your prattling you keep throwing all over hell.

At least the rest of us know how to rationally deal with the AFK Cloaker instead of emo-raging ####ing like a pathetic 4 year old crying for mama because he doesn't know how to deal with an guy whose away from keyboard cloaked in a ship.

So your answer is always to change the game instead of coming up with tactics to take care of the problem directly with what you got.

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Hun Jakuza
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2012-05-17 02:29:57 UTC
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
Evanga wrote:
everybody, stop being useless by stop complaining about afk cloakers.

WE DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK

these are game mechanics and they work fine, as intended.


And we dont care what do you think!!!

The cloaking mechanics dont work fine, it's time to change with AFK tag, with Cloak cap/fuel usage, with unique "seek and destroy" type ship. Enough for riskfree afk cloaking.



Yes.
Dawn Flare
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2012-05-17 05:03:14 UTC
Tiger's Spirit wrote:

And we dont care what do you think!!!

Yup, exactly the grown up, mature attitude developers want to be dealing with. That will make them listen!
PerfectWing
Subsidy H.R.S.
Xagenic Freymvork
#60 - 2012-05-19 17:17:59 UTC
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