Market Discussions

I have also noticed an increase in the amount of meta 4 weapons on the market, and a coincidental drop in prices. However, the alteration of the loot tables was as indicated by others, only to replace meta 0 with scraps. So... perhaps some people just reacting by gut and dumping? idk

I was actually under the impression that drop rates for Meta 1 through 4 were increased. Could be wrong here, but I am DEFINITELY getting more of those mods than I ever did before.

Looking at the graphs for meta 1-4 you can see the increase in those items being sold this past week.

Could be some truth to that. Given that the Jita event has been winding down since last week - and is basically over now - people are VERY likely selling all the crap they've been too scared to go to Jita to sell.

Otherwise...yes...drop rates increased. There's no other explanation for such a rapid and sudden increase that has remained consistent for 2-3 weeks.

I salvage in a noctis and I realize that yes the amount of loot that drop has lessened, and yes meta-0 items are now mainly metal scraps.

I do not see a great increase in the amount of meta 1-4 loot that dropped.

A n example, L4 "Gone Berserk" full salvage used to have around 2000-3000m^3 of stuff to loot, after the removal of meta 0 , it has dropped to around 300m^3(Mainly because cap booster charges no longer drop. thankfully).
Note that Gone Berserk is a mission against mercenaries, meaning every wreck has loot.
I seem to only pick up a lot of amno/metal scraps. An average of 20-25 modules will drop. mostly meta 1-3 . I would only see 1-2 meta 4 items drop and usually its something that is not worth going to the market to sell , such as meta 4 reinforced bulkheads



My hypothesis is, loot used to be in so much abundance, it was quite tedious to sort through . People might just refine it all into minerals and sell it. Also , there used to be so much crap modules dropping (not very good mineral:space ratio I.E. Miner I modules) Noctises(how do you plural a Noctis lol , Noctiss/Noctises) have to drop the loot at a station every 2-3 l4 missions. hauling it to a tradehub would be troublesome too if the player is just a mission runner/salvage alt. Imagine having to right click sell, each and every item for over 200 items, and checking if it was worth it to just refine or sell to players.

After the patch, you no longer get huge amounts of modules that you have to sift through to find out whether if it is worth it to sell or to refine it. People can keep their noctis running behind my mission runner for more than 5 missions without docking to drop off stuff. Not so tedious to dualbox a noctis and a mission runner now. The stuff that drop now have better Mineral:Volume Ratio (No more lol "cap booster charges 800")
Also , due to the drop in loot amount my guess is that people become more cautious of what they refine, they use to make at least 1.5times in minerals(I know I do) , Shrinking profit margins make people a little more

Thus, the volume of collected loot are now smaller, people can just haul them to tradehubs when they need to trade w/o the need of carrying large amounts of goods/minerals. Thus more people sell off their meta 4 loot than to refine them along with the rest of the stuff by.

It's not screwing up if done intentionally. Clearly CCP wanted to compensate slightly for the m0 drop changes. I do agree that i dont think player behavior has changes, my guess 90% of M4 were sold before and after. So this amount of volume increase can only mean the droprates have increased.

Bad for traders ofcourse, i used to trade quite a bit in M4 in the days. Especially regionwide buys made me quite a bit of isk (with a lot of work though).

I still dabble in the high value M4's. If they drop more than 50% they will stop being interesting though I fear.

simple as looking at the size of the cargo hold of your average mission runner...

they used to fill it up with meta0 items and would leave plenty of unlooted wrecks on the field (remember mission runners are in it for speed and bounties and picking up what they can, not optimizing every m3 of space).

no meta0 = more room for the other items.


no change in drop rates, just more meta items making it to the market. gonna crash, hard.

It already has. Some items are down to a fraction of their former value.

BTW, I suspect the same (+ incursion runners going back to doing missions), but it still seems like kind of a big crash.

Just looking if sbd. has more insight than i do.

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So many miners have changed their habits and have started doing something else. I doubt they're spinning ships all day long in the hangar - most likely they're now running missions and collecting the loot from them and this has affected meta 4 prices. Then there's also the incursion nerf and drone loot nerf which have probably driven some players back to missions...