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Why force your play style on others?
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SMT008
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#121 - 2012-05-04 17:55:59 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Hisec people, on the other hand, rarely think of 0.0.


That's not because they don't give a ****. That's because they either fear it or don't know anything about it.

Ignorance.
Cristian Zabala
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#122 - 2012-05-04 17:59:26 UTC
mad cus bad.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#123 - 2012-05-04 18:01:10 UTC
SMT008 wrote:
That's because they either fear it or don't know anything about it.


Many hisec people actually dream of moving there someday. They just never get the chance, or the thousands of members it takes to claim one system.

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terrly bronks
Doomheim
#124 - 2012-05-04 18:04:54 UTC  |  Edited by: terrly bronks
Kuehnelt wrote:
You don't understand it? OK, let James 315 explain.



sorry that guys is a joke with words lol

why bounty on miners

why not bounty on mission runners???

why not bounty on battle ships

why not bounty on frigs


burn jita was great but why not a month long burn Jita


you see where this is going....????

why are miners soloed out each year and yet others are left alone empire has a lot more than just miners you know

anyhow ganking in hi-sec is a joke and I just don't see the fun in blowing up a ship that can't shoot back...... ok drones but still they to weak to do any real damage fast


oh and all five of my miners are tanked all the time have not lost one yet me 20 gankers 0
bliz80
High Fivers
#125 - 2012-05-04 18:13:26 UTC  |  Edited by: bliz80
space is dangerous, end of story. If you cant deal with that then you're in the wrong space.
Saia Tae Arragosa
Doomheim
#126 - 2012-05-04 18:17:18 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:

Why can't high sec be as awesome as low and null sec? It can be rewarding in a different way. There are many ways to reward players for their efforts.


Why not indeed?


This is a good start and CCP should really take note. I applaud you Malcanis - well done.
Takseen
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#127 - 2012-05-04 18:50:29 UTC
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:

Why can't high sec be as awesome as low and null sec? It can be rewarding in a different way. There are many ways to reward players for their efforts.


Why not indeed?


This is a good start and CCP should really take note. I applaud you Malcanis - well done.


Wow, Malcanis really gets it. Highsec isn't just the starter zone for newbies anymore, its performing many more useful functions.
For anyone who read the manifesto, I'm in the "casual" and "independent" brackets.

Currently there's three particularly atttractive bits of what Malcanis calls "high risk, high reward" gameplay accessible from highsec.
-popping into a highsec wormhole to tackle some C1 or C2 sleeper sites. Sadly now that I've "outgrown" battlecruisers in favour of battleships and strat cruisers, and started using +4 implants regularly, the risk/reward ratio doesn't really work out anymore.
Also the randomness of trying to find a wormhole that leads into a C1/C2 site that isn't also occupied can be frustrating.
-doing the lowsec endpoint of highsec escalations. The good odds of getting shiny deadspace loot are enough to get me into a cheap cruiser or BC and go for them. And due to lowsec mechanics I'm not too concerned about implant losses. Sadly these escalations are even rarer than the wormholes.
-the compulsory lowsec part of the Caldari epic arc. Again, the nice reward at the end and the fact that they could be done in a cheap ship made me just go and do it. If I couple do similar level 4s in those kinds of ships, I'd totally give them a go. Sadly, there's a 3 month time limit on the arcs.
Meat Explosion
The Incontinent Dog and Pony Rodeo
#128 - 2012-05-04 19:01:23 UTC
Because this annoying thread exists, I shall kill a miner in OP's honor. YOU SEE WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!!!!!
Saia Tae Arragosa
Doomheim
#129 - 2012-05-04 19:19:40 UTC
Meat Explosion wrote:
Because this annoying thread exists, I shall kill a miner in OP's honor. YOU SEE WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!!!!!


I shall make a toast in your honor brave soul.
Xolve
State War Academy
Caldari State
#130 - 2012-05-04 19:23:20 UTC
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
It is so funny because most of the whining on these boards seem to come from the people in null and low sec that can't stand that fact that their are, "shock", people that don't want to have crap to do with null or low sec space and the BS that takes place their.


Please learn the difference between There, Their, and They're.

Thanks.
Saia Tae Arragosa
Doomheim
#131 - 2012-05-04 19:53:38 UTC
Xolve wrote:
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
It is so funny because most of the whining on these boards seem to come from the people in null and low sec that can't stand that fact that their are, "shock", people that don't want to have crap to do with null or low sec space and the BS that takes place their.


Please learn the difference between There, Their, and They're.

Thanks.


OMG it is(sorry - was) like 2 am when I posted that...don't be so anal.
Helicity Boson
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#132 - 2012-05-04 19:54:32 UTC
Why do you want to force your playstyle on us?
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#133 - 2012-05-04 19:54:48 UTC
SMT008 wrote:
Bane Necran wrote:
Hisec people, on the other hand, rarely think of 0.0.


That's not because they don't give a ****. That's because they either fear it or don't know anything about it.

Ignorance.



so wouldn't it be awesome if FW was a safe way to learn 0.0 warfare in a safe setting that gives you bonuses and NPC run events. I know it's not as sandbox open as real 0.0, but I think a lot of people that got in FW back when it came out, they didn't go back to highsec, they left for real alliances and 0.0 warfare. I think FW alone got at least 8000 new players into 0.0 for what it's wroth.

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Alotta Cleavage
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#134 - 2012-05-04 20:08:27 UTC
Nerds bullied IRL can now be the bullies.
Wu Jiaqiu
#135 - 2012-05-04 20:27:47 UTC
What if my playstyle is killing people who don't want to PvP?
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#136 - 2012-05-04 20:31:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Beekeeper Bob
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
Why force your play style on others? I do not understand this drive from some players of EVE that think their style of playing the game is the only way. Who cares if some people wish to play in high sec? If you wish to blow **** up, you have null and low sec to do this all you want and the people in high sec really do not give a crap what you do - so why do you care what they do? Did it ever occur to you that some people just do not give a flying **** about your style of game play and just wish to be left alone to play the game the way they want to play it?

Most people that play EVE don't give a flying rats arse about null sec, and low sec. So why should those that choose to play in low and null sec give a flying rats arse about the people in high sec?



Hate to say it, but it sounds like you want to force people to play EVE with your playing style....
Which makes you just as bad as the people your flaming....Oops



And I wonder how many people have put out locators on you by now....Big smile

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MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#137 - 2012-05-04 20:39:00 UTC
Alotta Cleavage wrote:
Nerds bullied IRL can now be the bullies.


Right, which lets people like me be in anti-pirate corps. We fight pirates. You can't kill just one part of eve without effecting lots of other peoples way they choose to play eve as well.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#138 - 2012-05-04 21:00:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Why force your play style on others?

Because the game allows it, without the differing playstyles and aims of players in null, low and highsec Eve would become a giant snoozefest, PvP players inflicting death and destruction on PvE players & PvE players inflicting economic "warfare" on everybody else are what makes Eve the fantastic game that it is.

As a self confessed highsec PvE player I appreciate the risks that come from PvP players, they are the spice of life, without them carebearing would be an endless boring grind, as it is you take a risk (albeit fairly minimal most of the time)every time you undock, whether it be by war decs or some nutter in a suicide alpha boat that just fancies making you explode and capturing any subsequent chat logs for lols, but without this I wouldn't play, it'd be boring.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Lip Shords
#139 - 2012-05-04 21:10:22 UTC
Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:
Why force your play style on others? I do not understand this drive from some players of EVE that think their style of playing the game is the only way. Who cares if some people wish to play in high sec? If you wish to blow **** up, you have null and low sec to do this all you want and the people in high sec really do not give a crap what you do - so why do you care what they do? Did it ever occur to you that some people just do not give a flying **** about your style of game play and just wish to be left alone to play the game the way they want to play it?

Most people that play EVE don't give a flying rats arse about null sec, and low sec. So why should those that choose to play in low and null sec give a flying rats arse about the people in high sec?


1. I do not know why you care-bears keep stating that "most people that play EVE don't give a flying rats arse about null sec, and low sec." I am assuming it is because the average population density shows 70% of the character distribution in high sec and you are making the leap to thinking that means that all of those players are care-bears. The vast majority of them are null/low secers alts or industrialist characters who are very much involved in what goes on there. Unfortunately, CCP has provided an area of the game where production and isk making actives can be carried out with no risk, so that is where people go to do those things.

2. If you are allowed to grind isk risk free in high sec, that means that all of us who actually play the game have to put more time into grinding isk as well to afford inflated prices. I choose to take a preventative stance on the matter instead.

TL:DR
Quit forcing me to play your game by grind isk faucets and causing inflation.
Sid Hudgens
Doomheim
#140 - 2012-05-05 00:49:11 UTC
If anything, we should have more options to force our play-style on others. Or, rather, there should be parity in forcing playstyle on others.

See this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=103333

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