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Which part? The fact that the numbers don't show that there are more players in highsec, or the fact that this uncertainty was what I originally said before you objected by introducing an argument based on density?

No, they're both true.

To the original poster:

Let's use a real-life example.

Freedom of speech is not freedom FROM speech.

If the creators grant everyone the same rights to do whatever they want in a game, then it is up to you to remove yourself from the situation if you find it to be annoying. It is not your place to tell the other person that they should shut up. You remind me of the type of person who walks into a room and then starts telling people to be quiet because you can't think.

Um.. How about going outside and not ruining the party?

I first said population differences are evident by just traveling through both hisec and 0.0, to which you said it just seems that way due to there being less hisec systems so the populations are more dense there. Then we argued about that for a page.

And you're just going to keep on twisting things, and making it into a battle of attrition. Like you always do.

I'll save you the trouble. I'm already sick of trying to be rational with you.

One thing the up doesn't seem to grasp is that some if the issue has nothing to do with play style, but rather the mmo you picked.

Eve is not hello kitty, eve is not WoW, eve is not guild wars. Those other games have a fundamental premise of, if you do not want to fight others, you do not have to. Even guild wars which focus on pvp has a latge pve content you coukd focus one.

Eve is different. Eve represents a harsh, hostile world. The main theme is conflict. There is conflict in nul,low, and hi sec. Even rhw market, as player driven is conflict. There is a chance your mining ship will get attacked. Therevisca chance my mission ship will be killed. It doesn't matter what sec, it is what happens. And truthfully, it is what the op and the rest of us signed up for.

So yes, we all get to play our own way and our own style. However, that is confined by the game itself. You chose to play a harsh and hostile game. If your play style is to be ignorant of this fact, don't expect this hostile world to let you bask in the glory of that. The rest of the players and the nature of the game will see to that.



Short form:
You signed up for eve, deal with it or else hello kitty is that way: WWW.hellokitty.com.

I think the bulk of the argument is that many null and low-sec players consider highsec to be 'not EvE'. That is, they see nullsec as the entirety of EvE, and (with some exceptions) tend to look down their noses at people that choose to confine themselves to highsec space.

I'm not saying that risk vs. reward shouldn't be a consideration. EvE is, as has been stated, a 'harsh and hostile environment'. When you move beyond the matter of design, though, there's a growing sense of entitlement -- 'everyone must play the game my way because my way is the only real way to play'.

Unfortunately, this attitude isn't confined entirely to nullsec players, but they are the majority.

No, I just cut your quotes short to answer specific points or to reduce the irrelevant rambling.

You're confusing me with you again, since you're the one trying to change the order in which things were stated and assigning your arguments to me.

Good thing, then, that I happen to be right too: that the numbers do not show that there are more people in highsec… you know, that whole uncertainty thing I said at the beginning before you injected your density argument.

When tippia and mothermoon agree on something, it's time to stop trying to convince people your right

some peoples play style is to force others to play they way they want them to....

No need for that. Everybody gets a rifle and a right to shoot anybody who infringes on them. If you don't like that, then don't be a hypocrite and put weapons modules on your ships.

Hi, welcome to Eve. Now GTFO, and leave your women and goats.