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4.29 billion reasons why CCP loves the Goons lol...

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xavier69
Stark Enterprises LLC
#81 - 2012-05-04 17:44:11 UTC  |  Edited by: xavier69
Quote:
Do you ohnestly think a bunch of ganks on loan pilots in high sec are really going to make the rest of the members of the alliance quit? (especially these much larger alliances) Get a grip man

Stop with the OMG CCP wants to keep so and so members for money bullshit


No the point kid is if i want to war them and not take standing hits for ganking my memebers with alts that are allready -10 i should be able too

do i think they will quit ? no however ccp is with rules changes making it impossible for me to defend my players from gankers

ill even spell it out for U

Goonswarm decides to gank my mining members wtih -10 alts in high sec, Now to beable to defend my memebers from goondswarm i need to war them so i can fight them in high sec o wait 4.2billion isk i think just got screwed

so now my friends have to hide or attack back and get concored this gives large alliance way too much power

The fact they can just sucide gank all day and not get war anymore cause its to expensive is enough for me to call bullshit on these forums
Ur235
Appetite 4 Destruction
#82 - 2012-05-04 17:53:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Ur235
xavier69 wrote:
Quote:
Do you ohnestly think a bunch of ganks on loan pilots in high sec are really going to make the rest of the members of the alliance quit? (especially these much larger alliances) Get a grip man

Stop with the OMG CCP wants to keep so and so members for money bullshit


No the fooking point kid is if i want to war them and not take standing hits for ganking my memebers with alts that are allready -10 i should be able to fooker

do i think they will quit ? no however ccp is with rules changes making it impossible for me to defend my players from gankers


Allrite my apologies I completley read that post wrong I do actually see your point now, but to be fair its highly unlikely a huge 0.0 alliance like Goonswarm or whatever is going to wardec your small 12 man corp when they have got a huge area of space to fight and pve in. Unless you have caused them some serious pain and inconveniance, and if that is the case they would have a reason to wardec you anyways. And you took that risk by doing whatever you did to them first, and remember there is always the hire a merc option if they do thats also coming with Inferno

hmm

Ur235
Appetite 4 Destruction
#83 - 2012-05-04 18:00:35 UTC
xavier69 wrote:
Quote:
Do you ohnestly think a bunch of ganks on loan pilots in high sec are really going to make the rest of the members of the alliance quit? (especially these much larger alliances) Get a grip man

Stop with the OMG CCP wants to keep so and so members for money bullshit


No the point kid is if i want to war them and not take standing hits for ganking my memebers with alts that are allready -10 i should be able too

do i think they will quit ? no however ccp is with rules changes making it impossible for me to defend my players from gankers

ill even spell it out for U

Goonswarm decides to gank my mining members wtih -10 alts in high sec, Now to beable to defend my memebers from goondswarm i need to war them so i can fight them in high sec o wait 4.2billion isk i think just got screwed

so now my friends have to hide or attack back and get concored this gives large alliance way too much power

The fact they can just sucide gank all day and not get war anymore cause its to expensive is enough for me to call bullshit on these forums


If there -10 you can shoot them anyways for free dont get your point here

hmm

xavier69
Stark Enterprises LLC
#84 - 2012-05-04 18:07:55 UTC
example should be -5 or standing to correctly work

goonswarm and larger alliances do have alot of ganking alts in empire space

if they warred i could shoot back and there would be no problem but they wont they will just gank and that's the problem because the cost to war them for ganking is too high.

do i belive i would make a dent in them no but with 71m skill points i bet i can make them move on to easyier targets in empire.
but if i cant shoot them till i pay 42 billion isk thats idiocy

agian i have no problem with goonswarm nor have they ever wronged me in anyway

however this mechanic is borked beyond imagination and there size showcases it the best
Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
#85 - 2012-05-04 18:08:21 UTC
I love how when highsec players complain about getting blow up in highsec, the nullers respond with "HTFU".

When nullers get blown up in highsec, they respond with "Come to null and fight us!"
Cpt Roghie
Chemical Invasion Co.
#86 - 2012-05-04 18:09:23 UTC
Esan Vartesa wrote:
I love how when highsec players complain about getting blow up in highsec, the nullers respond with "HTFU".

When nullers get blown up in highsec, they respond with "Come to null and fight us!"


And the w-space crew: Not a single **** was given that day.

This could be fun.

ChaeDoc II
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2012-05-04 18:21:27 UTC
Obviously this only benefits Goonswarm and not all the other massive alliances too.

And seriously, Goonswarm couldn't give a **** about high sec war decs. The major alliances are self-sustaining and need Jita, Rens and Amarr for precious little and anything they do needs those market hubs for they can get with neutral alts so all this tinfoil faggotry is nothing but entertainment to them. Keep it up plz.
Ur235
Appetite 4 Destruction
#88 - 2012-05-04 18:23:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Ur235
xavier69 wrote:
example should be -5 or standing to correctly work

goonswarm and larger alliances do have alot of ganking alts in empire space

if they warred i could shoot back and there would be no problem but they wont they will just gank and that's the problem because the cost to war them for ganking is too high.

do i belive i would make a dent in them no but with 71m skill points i bet i can make them move on to easyier targets in empire.
but if i cant shoot them till i pay 42 billion isk thats idiocy

agian i have no problem with goonswarm nor have they ever wronged me in anyway

however this mechanic is borked beyond imagination and there size showcases it the best


Doesnt that just go back to not being afk and actually being active whilst mining? I mean if im going to run a plex in low or null im not just gonna drop sentry drones in my domi set them to agressive and go afk for 20 mins. im going to be constantly aware of whats on my scanner and my overview and gtfo if things look like there going to take a turn for the worse.

I know its almost impossible to not do mining afk in high sec because its so boring but it deosnt give you the right just because your in high sec to go afk and not worry about your ship and earn loads of isk. If you really do want to go afk then its prob best to get a bs because no one is gonna sucide gank that unless there incredibly stupid. sure its gonna turn less profit but you literally have 0 chance of being suicide ganked and therefore save you isk in the long run. Or you could mine in your mining barge and turn more profit but be active and smart aswell

Tbh CCP need to come up with a totally new way of mining to make it more fun anyways like some sort of automated crews that you train for or something but im pretty sure thats a longg way off

hmm

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#89 - 2012-05-04 19:11:31 UTC
ChaeDoc II wrote:
Obviously this only benefits Goonswarm and not all the other massive alliances too.

And seriously, Goonswarm couldn't give a **** about high sec war decs. The major alliances are self-sustaining and need Jita, Rens and Amarr for precious little and anything they do needs those market hubs for they can get with neutral alts so all this tinfoil faggotry is nothing but entertainment to them. Keep it up plz.

Not strictly true. Some of these super rifters take (billions?) of Tritanium. And you better bet we're not mining Veldspar out there...

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Adria Origin
Yar Har Fiddle Di Dee
#90 - 2012-05-04 20:08:04 UTC
Read OP, skipped the rest.

You do realize it costs you nothing extra to shoot goons? They live in null sec. You don't need to dec them, just fly to null sec and shoot them. No CONCORD. No security status penalty. Just shoot.

Or we can all, you know, sit around and cry about it. Whatever.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#91 - 2012-05-04 21:28:44 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Wow I am surprised how much this thread took off after I started it last night...
I honestly hope Mittani and his goons fully takes advantage of what will happen on the day of the new War DEC takes affect here's a suggestion:
Since for them these wardecc costs are not even a drop in the bucket compose a list for for every Hulkegeddon kill's corp/alliance & in the last week of Hulkegeddon WarDeck them ALL and finish Hulkageddon with a bang forcing all these miners to stay docked up or give them a chance to extract revenge since they'll obviously be thirsting for and there is no way they can cough up 4.29 billion ISK each IdeaBig smilePirate
Instead of Burn Jita it'll be burn all Empire for the first week of Inferno Shocked
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Gloomy Gus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#92 - 2012-05-04 21:52:01 UTC
I want to bring you home to the gooner forums to show my corpies so that however much they already hate my posting, yours will provide the necessary contrast so that I don't get banned yet

"DIE N***ERS1 DIE!!!" - EVENEWS24's Riverini "Gloomy Gus is literally a pocket" - Krixtal Icefluxor (former EVE Online player)

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#93 - 2012-05-04 21:54:39 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Wow I am surprised how much this thread took off after I started it last night...
I honestly hope Mittani and his goons fully takes advantage of what will happen on the day of the new War DEC takes affect here's a suggestion:
Since for them these wardecc costs are not even a drop in the bucket compose a list for for every Hulkegeddon kill's corp/alliance & in the last week of Hulkegeddon WarDeck them ALL and finish Hulkageddon with a bang forcing all these miners to stay docked up or give them a chance to extract revenge since they'll obviously be thirsting for and there is no way they can cough up 4.29 billion ISK each IdeaBig smilePirate
Instead of Burn Jita it'll be burn all Empire for the first week of Inferno Shocked

Well the miners can just go to NPC corps, right?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#94 - 2012-05-04 22:33:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarsus Zateki
How does costing an insane amount of ISK to wardec us matter in the least given that wardecs have no effect on us what so ever?

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#95 - 2012-05-04 22:50:51 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Wow I am surprised how much this thread took off after I started it last night...
I honestly hope Mittani and his goons fully takes advantage of what will happen on the day of the new War DEC takes affect here's a suggestion:
Since for them these wardecc costs are not even a drop in the bucket compose a list for for every Hulkegeddon kill's corp/alliance & in the last week of Hulkegeddon WarDeck them ALL and finish Hulkageddon with a bang forcing all these miners to stay docked up or give them a chance to extract revenge since they'll obviously be thirsting for and there is no way they can cough up 4.29 billion ISK each IdeaBig smilePirate
Instead of Burn Jita it'll be burn all Empire for the first week of Inferno Shocked

Well the miners can just go to NPC corps, right?


True TBH I expect with the new wardec system that most will anyways within 2 weeks of the new system... catch them while they are off guard. Mining corps in HI SEC may just all go belly up just like the CFC Incursion running did on the Day of the Escalation nerf.
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#96 - 2012-05-04 22:57:37 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Wow I am surprised how much this thread took off after I started it last night...
I honestly hope Mittani and his goons fully takes advantage of what will happen on the day of the new War DEC takes affect here's a suggestion:
Since for them these wardecc costs are not even a drop in the bucket compose a list for for every Hulkegeddon kill's corp/alliance & in the last week of Hulkegeddon WarDeck them ALL and finish Hulkageddon with a bang forcing all these miners to stay docked up or give them a chance to extract revenge since they'll obviously be thirsting for and there is no way they can cough up 4.29 billion ISK each IdeaBig smilePirate
Instead of Burn Jita it'll be burn all Empire for the first week of Inferno Shocked

Well the miners can just go to NPC corps, right?


True TBH I expect with the new wardec system that most will anyways within 2 weeks of the new system... catch them while they are off guard. Mining corps in HI SEC may just all go belly up just like the CFC Incursion running did on the Day of the Escalation nerf.

Ah yes, the famous TESTcursions. I've heard they were pretty spergy about their shiny ships, but I never did get one of those faction fitted things to try so I guess I will never know ~~

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#97 - 2012-05-04 23:02:22 UTC
I still don't understand why we haven't burned an Incursion constellation yet.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Deitis Surtic
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#98 - 2012-05-04 23:05:45 UTC
Ur235 wrote:
xavier69 wrote:

No the fooking point kid is if i want to war them and not take standing hits for ganking my memebers with alts that are allready -10 i should be able to fooker


Allrite my apologies I completley read that post wrong I do actually see your point now


I was too busy laughing at the irony of someone with the spelling comprehension of a 5 year old calling someone else a "kid" to really pick up on what he was trying to talk about, there. What was his point?
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#99 - 2012-05-04 23:06:23 UTC
you guys know this is a troll thread mainly due to the fact that the current war dec system on sisi is going to be updated on monday with a completely new war dec cost formula? whats on sisi now is what was the origional new idea for the cost but far from the final version... can this thread now be locked due to peeps not doing the homework....

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#100 - 2012-05-04 23:11:48 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
you guys know this is a troll thread mainly due to the fact that the current war dec system on sisi is going to be updated on monday with a completely new war dec cost formula? whats on sisi now is what was the origional new idea for the cost but far from the final version... can this thread now be locked due to peeps not doing the homework....


But this is a Goonswarm thread. CCP could make it so that our ships are blown up the instant we undock and men show up at our homes to punch us in the junk every time we log in and the bleating masses of the Eve-Online forums would still think that is too lenient. Its part of the social consciousness of Eve-Online to bag on Goons harder than any other group of players. About the only folks who have had it harder is the ancient incarnation of Red Alliance way back when.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.