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Burn VFK-IV: 1st June – 3rd June 2012

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#121 - 2012-05-05 09:28:30 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
the organizational capacity of a medium sized business


you give us way too much credit

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Gloomy Gus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#122 - 2012-05-05 15:09:32 UTC
Dabnus wrote:
The stations of uncensored expression are closing down; the lights are going out; but there is still time for those to whom freedom and honour mean something, to consult together.

Capsuleers have, it seems to me, formed a true judgment upon the disaster which has befallen the Empire. They realise the far-reaching consequences of the abandonment and ruin of Jita. If in February, March or April, High Sec, Low Sec, South and West had jointly declared that they would act together upon Goonswarm if Herr Mittani committed an act of unprovoked aggression against this system, I hold that the Dictator would have been confronted with such a formidable array that he would have been deterred from his purpose.

But all these backward speculations belong to history. It is no good using hard words among friends about the past, and reproaching one another for what cannot be recalled. It is the future, not the past, that demands our earnest and anxious thought. We must recognize that the democratic, liberal and peaceful forces have everywhere sustained a defeat which leaves them weaker, morally and physically, to cope with dangers which have vastly grown. But the cause of freedom has in it a recuperative power and virtue which can draw from misfortune new hope and new strength. If ever there was a time when men and women who cherish the ideals of the founders should take earnest counsel with one another, that time is now.

All the universe wishes for prosperity. Have we gained it by the sacrifice of Jita? It has been destroyed and devoured. It is now being digested. The question which is of interest to a lot of ordinary capsuleers, common capsuleers, is whether this destruction of Jita will bring upon the world a blessing or a curse.

Shall we be able to say to ourselves: "Well, that's out of the way, anyhow. Now let's get on with our regular daily life." But are these hopes well founded or are we merely making the best of what we had not the force and virtue to stop? That is the question that the peoples in all their space must ask themselves today. Is this the end, or is there more to come?

To this has been added the cult of war. Children are to be taught in their earliest schooling the delights and profits of conquest and aggression. A whole mighty community has been drawn painfully, by severe privations, into a warlike frame. They are held in this condition by a party organisation, who derive all kinds of profits, good and bad, from the upkeep of the regime. The Goonswarm tolerate no opinion but their own. They feed on hatred. They must seek, from time to time, and always at shorter intervals, a new target, a new prize, a new victim. The Dictator, in all his pride, is held in the grip of his Party machine. He can go forward; he cannot go back. He must blood his hounds and show them sport, or else be devoured by them. All-strong without, he is all-weak within.

No one must, however, underrate the power and efficiency of a totalitarian state. Where the whole population of a great bro pact, amiable capsuleers are gripped by the neck and by the hair by Goonswarm tyranny - for they are the same things spelt in different ways - the rulers for the time being can exercise a power for the purposes of war and external domination before which the ordinary free societies are at a grievous practical disadvantage. We have to recognise this.

The culminating question to which I have been leading is whether the universe should meet this menace by submission or by resistance. Let us see, then, whether the means of resistance remain to us today. We have sustained an immense disaster. Empire lies at this moment abashed and distracted before the triumphant assertions of dictatorial power.

Far away, happily protected by forum anonymity, you, the capsuleers of New Eden are the spectators, and I may add the increasingly involved spectators of these tragedies and crimes. Will you wait until freedom and independence have succumbed, and then take up the cause when it is three-quarters ruined, yourselves alone?

"No."

There, in one single word, is the resolve which the forces of freedom and progress, of tolerance and good will, should take. It is not in the power of one alliance, however formidably armed, still less is it in the power of a small group of men, violent, ruthless men, who have always to cast their eyes back over their shoulders, to cramp and fetter the forward march of human destiny. The preponderant universal forces are upon our side; they have but to be combined to be obeyed. We must arm. Empire must arm. Low-Sec must arm, Null-Sec must arm. If, through an earnest desire for peace, we have placed ourselves at a disadvantage, we must make up for it by redoubled exertions, and, if necessary, by fortitude in suffering.

The people will stand erect, and will face whatever may be coming.

Dictatorship - the fetish worship of one man - is a passing phase. A state of society where men may not speak their minds; such a state of society cannot long endure if brought into contact with the healthy outside world. The light of civilised progress with its tolerances and co-operation, with its dignities and joys, has often in the past been blotted out. But I hold the belief that we have now at last got far enough ahead of barbarism to control it, and to avert it, if only we realise what is afoot and make up our minds in time. We shall do it in the end. But how much harder our toil for every day's delay!

Is this a call to war? Does anyone pretend that preparation for resistance to aggression is unleashing war? I declare it to be the sole guarantee of peace. We need the swift gathering of forces to confront not only military but moral aggression; the resolute and sober acceptance of their duty by all the corporations, great and small.

WC


responses inline

"DIE N***ERS1 DIE!!!" - EVENEWS24's Riverini "Gloomy Gus is literally a pocket" - Krixtal Icefluxor (former EVE Online player)

Momoyo
Rivinshield Trading Inc.
#123 - 2012-05-05 15:17:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Momoyo
Sooo judging by the OP this will be organized, funded, and executed by anonymous alts. Sounds fun lets do this.

Also TL;DR

PS You guys think CCP employees make throwaway alts to troll us with posts like these?
Garnoo
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#124 - 2012-05-05 15:52:18 UTC
i wonder if anyone will follow this guy from npc corp....
anyway if you do we all hope youe will take as many friends you have, faction and officer fitting welcome \o/

People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back -  EvE

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#125 - 2012-05-05 15:53:29 UTC
Momoyo wrote:
You guys think CCP employees make throwaway alts to troll us with posts like these?


No, but goons sure do.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Polly Oxford
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#126 - 2012-05-05 16:08:10 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Momoyo wrote:
You guys think CCP employees make throwaway alts to troll us with posts like these?


No, but goons sure do.



Not really, logging into another alt is :effort: and we are allergic to that.
Gloomy Gus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#127 - 2012-05-05 16:16:07 UTC
Yeah never really bother with the alts unless their ****** gimmick is situationally apropro

Now logging onto an alt to participate in Burn VFK 2012, weh-hell-helll...

















Count me in

"DIE N***ERS1 DIE!!!" - EVENEWS24's Riverini "Gloomy Gus is literally a pocket" - Krixtal Icefluxor (former EVE Online player)

Gloomy Gus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#128 - 2012-05-05 16:16:58 UTC
but only if you write another essay on why we should

"DIE N***ERS1 DIE!!!" - EVENEWS24's Riverini "Gloomy Gus is literally a pocket" - Krixtal Icefluxor (former EVE Online player)

Commit Sudoku
Perkone
Caldari State
#129 - 2012-05-05 16:18:47 UTC
Ni Cho
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#130 - 2012-05-05 16:53:30 UTC
This is not in the Intergalactic Summit???
Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#131 - 2012-05-05 17:04:06 UTC
I'll be honest I didn't read that wall of sperg but I sure look forward to sitting on a gate killing your godawful stealthbombers off one by one.
Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Ixion Defence Systems
#132 - 2012-05-05 17:32:02 UTC
Please do this and bring your most badass ships with the best possible fit.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#133 - 2012-05-05 17:37:45 UTC
Sverige Pahis wrote:
I'll be honest I didn't read that wall of sperg but I sure look forward to sitting on a gate killing your godawful stealthbombers off one by one.


i hear we have a group that is good at that kind of thing

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#134 - 2012-05-05 17:38:05 UTC
Sverige Pahis wrote:
I'll be honest I didn't read that wall of sperg but I sure look forward to sitting on a gate killing your godawful stealthbombers off one by one.

Pubbies use stealthbombers?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#135 - 2012-05-05 18:00:37 UTC
Gloomy Gus wrote:
Dabnus wrote:
The stations of uncensored expression are closing down; the lights are going out; but there is still time for those to whom freedom and honour mean something, to consult together.

Capsuleers have, it seems to me, formed a true judgment upon the disaster which has befallen the Empire. They realise the far-reaching consequences of the abandonment and ruin of Jita. If in February, March or April, High Sec, Low Sec, South and West had jointly declared that they would act together upon Goonswarm if Herr Mittani committed an act of unprovoked aggression against this system, I hold that the Dictator would have been confronted with such a formidable array that he would have been deterred from his purpose.

But all these backward speculations belong to history. It is no good using hard words among friends about the past, and reproaching one another for what cannot be recalled. It is the future, not the past, that demands our earnest and anxious thought. We must recognize that the democratic, liberal and peaceful forces have everywhere sustained a defeat which leaves them weaker, morally and physically, to cope with dangers which have vastly grown. But the cause of freedom has in it a recuperative power and virtue which can draw from misfortune new hope and new strength. If ever there was a time when men and women who cherish the ideals of the founders should take earnest counsel with one another, that time is now.

All the universe wishes for prosperity. Have we gained it by the sacrifice of Jita? It has been destroyed and devoured. It is now being digested. The question which is of interest to a lot of ordinary capsuleers, common capsuleers, is whether this destruction of Jita will bring upon the world a blessing or a curse.

Shall we be able to say to ourselves: "Well, that's out of the way, anyhow. Now let's get on with our regular daily life." But are these hopes well founded or are we merely making the best of what we had not the force and virtue to stop? That is the question that the peoples in all their space must ask themselves today. Is this the end, or is there more to come?

To this has been added the cult of war. Children are to be taught in their earliest schooling the delights and profits of conquest and aggression. A whole mighty community has been drawn painfully, by severe privations, into a warlike frame. They are held in this condition by a party organisation, who derive all kinds of profits, good and bad, from the upkeep of the regime. The Goonswarm tolerate no opinion but their own. They feed on hatred. They must seek, from time to time, and always at shorter intervals, a new target, a new prize, a new victim. The Dictator, in all his pride, is held in the grip of his Party machine. He can go forward; he cannot go back. He must blood his hounds and show them sport, or else be devoured by them. All-strong without, he is all-weak within.

No one must, however, underrate the power and efficiency of a totalitarian state. Where the whole population of a great bro pact, amiable capsuleers are gripped by the neck and by the hair by Goonswarm tyranny - for they are the same things spelt in different ways - the rulers for the time being can exercise a power for the purposes of war and external domination before which the ordinary free societies are at a grievous practical disadvantage. We have to recognise this.

The culminating question to which I have been leading is whether the universe should meet this menace by submission or by resistance. Let us see, then, whether the means of resistance remain to us today. We have sustained an immense disaster. Empire lies at this moment abashed and distracted before the triumphant assertions of dictatorial power.

Far away, happily protected by forum anonymity, you, the capsuleers of New Eden are the spectators, and I may add the increasingly involved spectators of these tragedies and crimes. Will you wait until freedom and independence have succumbed, and then take up the cause when it is three-quarters ruined, yourselves alone?

"No."

There, in one single word, is the resolve which the forces of freedom and progress, of tolerance and good will, should take. It is not in the power of one alliance, however formidably armed, still less is it in the power of a small group of men, violent, ruthless men, who have always to cast their eyes back over their shoulders, to cramp and fetter the forward march of human destiny. The preponderant universal forces are upon our side; they have but to be combined to be obeyed. We must arm. Empire must arm. Low-Sec must arm, Null-Sec must arm. If, through an earnest desire for peace, we have placed ourselves at a disadvantage, we must make up for it by redoubled exertions, and, if necessary, by fortitude in suffering.

The people will stand erect, and will face whatever may be coming.

Dictatorship - the fetish worship of one man - is a passing phase. A state of society where men may not speak their minds; such a state of society cannot long endure if brought into contact with the healthy outside world. The light of civilised progress with its tolerances and co-operation, with its dignities and joys, has often in the past been blotted out. But I hold the belief that we have now at last got far enough ahead of barbarism to control it, and to avert it, if only we realise what is afoot and make up our minds in time. We shall do it in the end. But how much harder our toil for every day's delay!

Is this a call to war? Does anyone pretend that preparation for resistance to aggression is unleashing war? I declare it to be the sole guarantee of peace. We need the swift gathering of forces to confront not only military but moral aggression; the resolute and sober acceptance of their duty by all the corporations, great and small.

WC


responses inline


why not just SAY no lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#136 - 2012-05-05 18:01:12 UTC
Garnoo wrote:
i wonder if anyone will follow this guy from npc corp....
anyway if you do we all hope youe will take as many friends you have, faction and officer fitting welcome \o/


Dunno, I see more NPC alts than corp ppl on the forums

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#137 - 2012-05-05 18:05:05 UTC
Momoyo wrote:


PS You guys think CCP employees make throwaway alts to troll us with posts like these?


Well, at least I can assure you that I make throwaway alts to troll you with posts like these....

But this time it wasn't me, really.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#138 - 2012-05-05 18:19:21 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Garnoo wrote:
i wonder if anyone will follow this guy from npc corp....
anyway if you do we all hope youe will take as many friends you have, faction and officer fitting welcome \o/


Dunno, I see more NPC alts than corp ppl on the forums

The swarm of NPC alts.

Well, with the changes to wardecs, I suspect NPC corps will gain great power !

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#139 - 2012-05-05 18:24:38 UTC  |  Edited by: MeBiatch
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Sverige Pahis wrote:
I'll be honest I didn't read that wall of sperg but I sure look forward to sitting on a gate killing your godawful stealthbombers off one by one.

Pubbies use stealthbombers?



no not pubbies muppets use them...

you see goons are muppets because alex is playing you like oneP

edit: plus he likes to get his hands covered in sh*t

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#140 - 2012-05-05 18:27:13 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Sverige Pahis wrote:
I'll be honest I didn't read that wall of sperg but I sure look forward to sitting on a gate killing your godawful stealthbombers off one by one.

Pubbies use stealthbombers?



no not pubbies muppets use them...

you see goons are muppets because alex is playing you like oneP

I see your clever and subtle insinuation that we're being mind controlled by The Mittani.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?