These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Is It Worth Returning To Eve?
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#61 - 2012-05-04 08:09:07 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Mars Theran wrote:
The griefing is killing EVE

If you witness acts of griefing, you should report them to the GMs via the petition system so that the griefers are properly punished. I would really hate it if griefers killed my pvp-centric spaceship MMO that I've devoted many years of my life to.


I'm not referring to griefing in the sense of targeting a specific individual, but more directly to the general sort of griefing that Hulkageddon and Burn Jita consist of. It's still griefing, (what else would you call it?), but it's not against the EULA or ToS.
zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub
TWHC Assistant
#62 - 2012-05-04 08:12:39 UTC
Misunderstood Genius wrote:
If all these pathetic haters and whiners would really be consequent and leave EVE the game would be fixed.

Your stupidity is showing. You hate others just the same. And those who you hate affect your game in no way unless you let them, which makes you the whiner.
Misunderstood Genius
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2012-05-04 08:26:22 UTC
TWHC Assistant wrote:
Misunderstood Genius wrote:
If all these pathetic haters and whiners would really be consequent and leave EVE the game would be fixed.

Your stupidity is showing. You hate others just the same. And those who you hate affect your game in no way unless you let them, which makes you the whiner.


Meh
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#64 - 2012-05-04 08:29:04 UTC
Mars Theran wrote:
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Mars Theran wrote:
The griefing is killing EVE

If you witness acts of griefing, you should report them to the GMs via the petition system so that the griefers are properly punished. I would really hate it if griefers killed my pvp-centric spaceship MMO that I've devoted many years of my life to.


I'm not referring to griefing in the sense of targeting a specific individual, but more directly to the general sort of griefing that Hulkageddon and Burn Jita consist of. It's still griefing, (what else would you call it?), but it's not against the EULA or ToS.

Well CCP defines griefing as persecution. Are you saying that your definition of griefing in relation to EVE is more accurate than CCP's definition of griefing?

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Biff Rodgers
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#65 - 2012-05-04 09:20:46 UTC
I'm not sure if I can add anything not already added but, it is essentially a player based game "nothing new there" meaning it is dependant on players making it fun for them selves "sand box".
So with that in mind CCP have tried to find a ballance between PVE and PVP.
Again nothing new there either.
In my meager 4 years on here, there is more room for improvement on things like wardec mechanics, it's easy for a corp to keep a wardec open on another corp or alliance. This seems to have been a big enough gripe to get CSM involved.
There has been other issues like with staticmapper where jump counts in WH has been removed, (I hope they remove NPC kill counts too.)
There has been a recent patch to plug a loophole where a pilot can aggress in Hi sec and avoid concord once a aggression counter has started....

CCP is working in improving the game play of EVE, It's a continual work in progress, I just which they spend more time on working on the game play rather than on pew pew.
Game play makes more long term enjoyment than pretty fairy lights.

Biff
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#66 - 2012-05-04 09:23:19 UTC
Solo and small gang PvP is in great state, try lowsec and WHs. There are lots of guys and small groups simply doing what they love, which is good fights.

Dunno if anything else really matters.

.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2012-05-04 09:40:22 UTC
Canteen Charlie wrote:
So played Eve pretty hard for a couple of years from right before Apocropha came out and was in love with the game but my enjoyment diminished with each less enjoyable update after it. Got tired of spending tons of hours building up a corp to over 100 players to have it be riddled with pointless wardecs from small half a dozen member gangs seeking just to disrupt or harass. But was enjoying wormhole life with my three carrier pilots and had a supercarrier alt completed. But it's been about 7 months now since I've played and I'm curious to hear if people think the game has gotten more enjoyable again and if its worth coming back or should i give it another six months or so?


I came back a year ago (holy crap) and have been enjoying it immensely. First time I've ever made it past ~3 months in a row and have hit 12 this time. They're making some changes to stop the random wardec harassment and make corporation wars more meaningful, we'll see how that goes.

I would have suggested you try Incursions if you were looking for good PVE content (I presume so since you did Wormholes) but they were nerfed into utter oblivion recently and are no longer worth bothering with other than a curiosity.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#68 - 2012-05-04 09:47:01 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Dennmoth Ferdier wrote:
All wormholes are occupied. The goons, the russians and soon to be japanese empire cartel everything. Major alliances are deciding where you can do your shopping and where you can't, mining has been deemed bad and punishable by aggression, and the trolls have multiplied by a factor of 1000.


Do not return.


The above +100. CCP feeds the trolls & eventually 'fixes' everything into extinction everything that you like about the game. Game testing is done by a bunch of monkies throwing poo on the wall & the DEV's code by sense of smell
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#69 - 2012-05-04 09:49:35 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Xython wrote:
Canteen Charlie wrote:
So played Eve pretty hard for a couple of years from right before Apocropha came out and was in love with the game but my enjoyment diminished with each less enjoyable update after it. Got tired of spending tons of hours building up a corp to over 100 players to have it be riddled with pointless wardecs from small half a dozen member gangs seeking just to disrupt or harass. But was enjoying wormhole life with my three carrier pilots and had a supercarrier alt completed. But it's been about 7 months now since I've played and I'm curious to hear if people think the game has gotten more enjoyable again and if its worth coming back or should i give it another six months or so?


I came back a year ago (holy crap) and have been enjoying it immensely. First time I've ever made it past ~3 months in a row and have hit 12 this time. They're making some changes to stop the random wardec harassment and make corporation wars more meaningful, we'll see how that goes.

I would have suggested you try Incursions if you were looking for good PVE content (I presume so since you did Wormholes) but they were nerfed into utter oblivion recently and are no longer worth bothering with other than a curiosity.


I too enjoyed Incursions immensely until the patch & am seriously considering unsubbing after CCP 'fixed' it just like I quit Eve for 6 months after theIncarna fiasco
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Just Alter
Futures Abstractions
#70 - 2012-05-04 09:55:44 UTC
Morganta wrote:
its never worth returning to eve

it is however a good idea


This.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#71 - 2012-05-04 09:56:51 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Dennmoth Ferdier wrote:
All wormholes are occupied. The goons, the russians and soon to be japanese empire cartel everything. Major alliances are deciding where you can do your shopping and where you can't, mining has been deemed bad and punishable by aggression, and the trolls have multiplied by a factor of 1000.


Do not return.


The above +100. CCP feeds the trolls & eventually 'fixes' everything into extinction everything that you like about the game. Game testing is done by a bunch of monkies throwing poo on the wall & the DEV's code by sense of smell


If you weren't so batshit stupid, you'd realize you got trolled.


.
Holy One
Privat Party
#72 - 2012-05-04 10:01:12 UTC
Phrank Phish wrote:
No.

Saying that, I cant put my finger on exactly what is missing.


About 20, 000 people.


:)
Gerald Taric
NEO DYNAMICS
#73 - 2012-05-04 10:31:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Gerald Taric
Dennmoth Ferdier wrote:
All wormholes are occupied.


:-)

I'm not sure about *that*.
A few months ago i was able to get via an C1 WH to another (i think it was a C2) WH, which was very huge and had one abandoned POS in it. The reason was discovered very fast: As far as i can remember it has a "permanent" exit to LowSec.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#74 - 2012-05-04 10:33:00 UTC
There are plenty of empty WH's. Also, lowsec static, best static <3

.
Heimdallofasgard
Ministry of Furious Retribution
Fraternity.
#75 - 2012-05-04 12:08:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Heimdallofasgard
Allow me to convolute a metaphor.

Sandboxes are funny things, the eve sand box in particular, you have the kids around the edges with water and spades building sand castles under their mums watchful gauge.

Then as you get to the middle you have the toddler who's just digging a massive hole, outdoing everyone, kicking and thrashing throwing sand everywhere and making everyone else paranoid he's gonna knock over their lovely little pubbie sandcastles.

That kid is awesome, hilarious to watch and comedy no matter what he does, and by the end of it when everyone's gone home, the dust settles, all the sandcastles have blown over and there's a f***ing great big hole in the middle of the sandpit as testament to how crazy that kid was.

So yes... Re-Join eve, be a passive observer, get involved in the player run events, join a massive null-sec bloc and conribute to a great community and massive fleet battles not found anywhere else online, stay in high sec and persue individual success go into wormholes for adrenaline rushes. go to low-sec for casual pvp stuff and pirating.

Know the risks and limits of the game, and enjoy yourself within it. You will loose things.

Remember, Confucius say: "Even a sandbox has walls"

Edit: The toddler in the middle is null sec btw.
Harland White
Adventurer's Guild
#76 - 2012-05-04 12:16:13 UTC
Well, Goons essentially control CCP, since several folks at CCP are confirmed goons. It's not a good thing for anyone that dislikes the goon mentality, because they're making small changes here and there to shift the game to what the goons want it to be. That will continue to happen until EVE is basically "that 273rd game that got wrecked by goons". Right now it's not so bad, but if CCP continues what it's doing and planning, it'll be time to abandon ship eventually.

By their fruit you will recognize them.
Lemming Alpha1dash1
Lemmings Online
#77 - 2012-05-04 12:18:35 UTC
lastest patch note:

◦Recent changes to fleet- and corp member access to hangars and ship maintenance bays in capital ships (and Orca's) have been reverted. Happy fleet mining :)

CCP's high horse does get riden sometimes, no denying that, but it seems they are willing to listen since the riots, so come on back Bear

Information is Ammunition,

War does not tolerate Ambiguities.

May you live in an interesting Empyrean age !

http://eve-radio.com/
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#78 - 2012-05-04 12:32:32 UTC
Harland White wrote:
Well, Goons essentially control CCP, since several folks at CCP are confirmed goons. It's not a good thing for anyone that dislikes the goon mentality, because they're making small changes here and there to shift the game to what the goons want it to be. That will continue to happen until EVE is basically "that 273rd game that got wrecked by goons". Right now it's not so bad, but if CCP continues what it's doing and planning, it'll be time to abandon ship eventually.


Goons also control the EU, World Bank and China, mere puppets of an internet forum community of random strangers.

.
Dradius Calvantia
Lip Shords
#79 - 2012-05-04 13:24:01 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Eve is pretty much the worst game out there and gets worse with every day that passes by. For every member your corp gets there are 10 half dozen member gangs who will wardec to harass you. Nowadays it's not just those guys but also the Goons killing every single mining ship out there, and breaking trade hubs left and right. Eve is only going to get worse from what I see, between the wardec revamp, Drake nerf, bot bans, drone nerf, and generally CCP being the most horrible game company.

Eve is in fact so terrible that in order to have fun you have to bend your own mind and create something that's fun. If you want to take another swing at that, go ahead and come back to Eve. If not, then no, Eve has not gotten any more fun.


All other idiocy in this post aside... the drake is not getting a nerf. The proposed changes are a HUGE buff.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2012-05-04 14:54:16 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Xython wrote:
Canteen Charlie wrote:
So played Eve pretty hard for a couple of years from right before Apocropha came out and was in love with the game but my enjoyment diminished with each less enjoyable update after it. Got tired of spending tons of hours building up a corp to over 100 players to have it be riddled with pointless wardecs from small half a dozen member gangs seeking just to disrupt or harass. But was enjoying wormhole life with my three carrier pilots and had a supercarrier alt completed. But it's been about 7 months now since I've played and I'm curious to hear if people think the game has gotten more enjoyable again and if its worth coming back or should i give it another six months or so?


I came back a year ago (holy crap) and have been enjoying it immensely. First time I've ever made it past ~3 months in a row and have hit 12 this time. They're making some changes to stop the random wardec harassment and make corporation wars more meaningful, we'll see how that goes.

I would have suggested you try Incursions if you were looking for good PVE content (I presume so since you did Wormholes) but they were nerfed into utter oblivion recently and are no longer worth bothering with other than a curiosity.


I too enjoyed Incursions immensely until the patch & am seriously considering unsubbing after CCP 'fixed' it just like I quit Eve for 6 months after theIncarna fiasco


I wouldn't do that, as if you're unsubbed you literally do not count as a character (I'd say person but that's too sensationalist) to CCP's calculations about pre and post Incursion running.

Instead, just give constructive feedback in their thread about Incursions, and hopefully they'll implement the change that was actually tested on the test server, rather than the random nerf suplex we got on live.