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I'm not a fan of this new system, I think the previous posts have outlined my gripes with it perfectly. What I don't understand is why they don't have this replace the assets screen instead of the ships/items window. The window would be even more universal than the inventory window now, showing not only things where you're at but also in other stations, CCP could just add a new subtree for 'other stations' or something. People that like the new system can use the assets window for everything while others, like me, can keep using the existing windows. Hell, if this replaced the assets screen I might even like that.

The new Inventory screen would make a fantastic replacement for the Assets window.

It is a horrid replacement for the Ships and Items windows; it lacks the basic functionality inherent in those two separate windows.

What functionality exactly?

Being able to drag a bunch of items from one location to another and immediately see the updated list of items in both.

Noriko, Thank you heaps for pointing those out. I thought I had kept up with it all, guess I missed it in the info overload haha.

Thanks Muchly.

Oh Sweet. I will be on to test aswell, once this finishes updating.

Edit to add: Well, none of the changes mentioned are on SiSi yet. I do like the new showing of estimated price and stack price on mouseover of items now however.

Oh, and they managed to break the scrollbar overlap of the tree view part, but oh well. XD

OK CCP what have you done to this new inventory ?

It has gone from almost usable to totally unusable in one small update.

I thought a good test for this would be to try it with my Orca (lots of bays etc.) to try multiple windows open at the same time and to try the alleged new dual docked and un-docked settings.

Docked;
Orca ship in view, right click ship, only option is 'Open cargo hold', no Drone bay, no Ore bay, no Corp Hangers, what happened to all of those?

Looked at my merged 'Ships and Items' panel in the station services windows and the Orca ship icon has vanished so I can't right click that.

So I click the 'Inventory' button and a window opens, it has the name of my ship and (Active Ship), I know it's active I can see it but am I looking at the cargo hold or what, it does not say.

I shift click to open the other windows, Drone bay, Ore hold and Maintenance bay into separate windows so I can drag stuff into them and sort it while I do it. Next I try to open some of my cargo containers from my merged items list, no can do, I can open one but if I want more open the only way is back to the shift click list in the inventory.

However now I've closed the tree view to see all of the cargo hold (I think that's what it is, still nothing to tell me) and have to open the blasted tree again. I want to see more of the tree so I drag the side bar to the right, shift click the cargo container to open it's window and try and click the tiny chevrons to close the tree, don't work, the little button will not light up until I drag the side bar back to the default location.

I close all the windows and un-dock;

I repeat most of the above except the opening of cargo containers and it gets worse, not only does the right click on ship menu forget my cargo hold option but just about everything else as well. So the only window I can open is the Inventory window with the Cargo Button on the HUD. Why does this button not open a simple cargo hold window like it used too?

OK, I go through all the shift click stuff again and set up my undocked setup (just as a test), and the window still just lists my (active ship), no (cargo hold) type of ship or whatever.

So after faffing around for it seems ages just to open and position the windows, I close them all and dock only to find each shift click opens the windows in the same position as when in space not the previous docked positions when I was docked.

The only good bit;
The Corp Hangers now list their correct names.

This is not a good use of yours or my time, there is an old saying 'If it aint broke don't fix it', let the inventory button open the inventory if you must, but let all the default buttons do what they always did and please don't remove the active ship from the merged ships list and for goodness sake don't remove the merged 'Ships and Items' option.

What i don't get is the new inventory system in combination with a pos. I build a pos on the test server and tried it out.
I was happy to see all stuff that is in a pos in the new inventory a soon as the pos is on the grid. You can see all divisions from all sma's, corp hangars, labs, reactors and so on. Thats awesome.

But at the same time i ask myself why don't finally get rid of the whole "you have to be within 3000meters to do stuff" thing.
Why can't i just move around things between pos modules now you have that right inventory system? Its annoying. You sit in your ship, can see stuff in your laboratory 10 km away. But you cant move it to the corp hangar right next to you. Why is that?

You can't also see inside SMA's when you are not within 3000 meters. Why is that? You should see the ships in it from anywhere in the pos ff. But if you want to board a ship, you have within range like it is now, thats fine.

So far the only thing I'm concerned about: the cargo UI in space is too big by default.

Yes, you can shift-click it out and then it resizes fine, but would like this *one* window to pop out from the cargo UI button in the HUD (no need for the tree in this case, you're specifically requesting this window).

This was as of yesterday though, so not sure if it had been updated today. Rest of the inventory update felt OK to me (though having the current ship not show up in the old 'ships' station window was a bit unnerving).