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[proposal] limit gang links to a single grid

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#241 - 2012-03-15 12:32:47 UTC
Katarina Reid wrote:
i think on grid can be good but refund me the 5b spent on my alt or give me the sp back

Yeah...no. You can use your alt as an on grid fleet booster or sell it. No reason to refund SP for a change like this.

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tiberiusric
Comply Or Die
Pandemic Horde
#242 - 2012-03-16 17:30:23 UTC
I can agree it needs fixing, but what else can solo players do? I mean shall we say you should fix the blob? its very hard for solo players in eve due to local, intel, blobs, gangs etc. So we got to have some advantage, right?

But yes i agree its not right for large gangs as such. Those nice loki boosters sat in a POS

So i suggest

Allow it for small gangs up to 5 people in fleet anything more its grid only
Do not allow if the booster is in a POS - AT ALL

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Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#243 - 2012-03-21 00:50:51 UTC
bump

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Joyelle
SludgeSlingers
#244 - 2012-03-21 01:04:13 UTC
When will CCP create a dislike button for these forums?
You suggestion doesn't suit me so -1.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#245 - 2012-03-22 14:24:34 UTC
tiberiusric wrote:
I can agree it needs fixing, but what else can solo players do? I mean shall we say you should fix the blob? its very hard for solo players in eve due to local, intel, blobs, gangs etc. So we got to have some advantage, right?

But yes i agree its not right for large gangs as such. Those nice loki boosters sat in a POS

So i suggest

Allow it for small gangs up to 5 people in fleet anything more its grid only
Do not allow if the booster is in a POS - AT ALL



It is killing solo.

When you are flying with a booster alt in your fleet you are not solo. There are a few places I don't eve try to get any fights anymore because there will be super charged hookbill orbitting me at 30k sensor damping me so I can't even lock it, even though I am in a cruiser. Its ridiculous enough to make fine with not signing in.

There is no decent way for a solo pilot to combat that.

BTW I am finding allot of great solo fights in faction war doing plexes (once you learn how to avoid those with the booster alts.) You may want to give it a try.

That said if they want to give crews that give the same exact bonuses as a maxed out booster alts but would be destroyed like other mods, I wouldn't mind. It would be a way that people who don't like flying with alts can still be competitive solo and wouldn't nerf the booster alts.

The booster alts would be the cheaper option in the long run.

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Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#246 - 2012-03-22 15:56:05 UTC
It's not just solo that it's killing, it's also harmful to new players and corps starting out in PVP. Because we're in danger of getting into a position where people believe that they need a booster pilot to be able to compete. The above reference to "solo" pilots needing a booster alt is evidence of that. At which point there's a great danger of new players thinking "this is stupid" and of going back to PVEing or logging off.

Now, sure, this is really a problem with warfare links in general, rather than off-grid alts, but on-grid boosters are more visible so easier to scout, more vulnerable and are trickier to manage as an alt.
JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#247 - 2012-03-22 16:09:25 UTC
+1
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#248 - 2012-03-22 16:27:43 UTC
tiberiusric wrote:
I can agree it needs fixing, but what else can solo players do?
We can continue to speak out against off-grid boosters (Ship + boosting alt is not solo).
zero2espect
Space-Brewery-Association
#249 - 2012-03-31 22:43:42 UTC
+1.

you could link this easily in the UI by adding it to the watch list. if the booster is "on grid" in your watchlist (whether you have him/her on the watch list or not) you get the bonuses. the booster could be in a different color so that you instantly know, who is giving bonuses and why, if not.

this is long over due.

bringing skill back into the game instead of "automatic pilot" alts is a grand idea.
Pink Marshmellow
Caucasian Culture Club
#250 - 2012-04-01 02:25:11 UTC
zero2espect wrote:
+1.

you could link this easily in the UI by adding it to the watch list. if the booster is "on grid" in your watchlist (whether you have him/her on the watch list or not) you get the bonuses. the booster could be in a different color so that you instantly know, who is giving bonuses and why, if not.

this is long over due.

bringing skill back into the game instead of "automatic pilot" alts is a grand idea.


Since when was pressing F1 considered skill?
Buzzy Warstl
Quantum Flux Foundry
#251 - 2012-04-01 15:24:08 UTC
The OP couldn't be more wrong if they lived in Wrongville.

Sure, limit boosts to on-grid. That won't have the effect you think it will.

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Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
#252 - 2012-04-01 20:46:27 UTC
Just remove the Command Processor module. Hey presto no 6-link ship alts. Fleet Command ships get back their eminence in gang bonuses. It wouldn't stop POSsed-up Fleet Command alts, of course, but it's a move towards balance
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#253 - 2012-04-04 21:38:36 UTC
Pink Marshmellow wrote:


Since when was pressing F1 considered skill?


Get out of your drake and you will notice that the game requires a bit more effort than simply pressing F1.
Zircon Dasher
#254 - 2012-04-04 22:58:25 UTC
Kade Jeekin wrote:
Just remove the Command Processor module. Hey presto no 6-link ship alts. Fleet Command ships get back their eminence in gang bonuses. It wouldn't stop POSsed-up Fleet Command alts, of course, but it's a move towards balance


This.

We need more POS shooting in EVE amirite?

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.
Adrian Slave Toucher
Doomheim
#255 - 2012-04-05 00:58:00 UTC
+1
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#256 - 2012-04-13 13:38:24 UTC
I am happy that they posed the question at Fanfest and CCP responded favorably in that they want gang links on grid as well. I can't wait to start popping me some command ships!

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Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#257 - 2012-04-13 15:46:50 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
I am happy that they posed the question at Fanfest and CCP responded favorably in that they want gang links on grid as well. I can't wait to start popping me some command ships!



I missed this. Where/when did this come up?

It seems CCP is reading what the players want. I am glad to hear it.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#258 - 2012-04-13 15:53:40 UTC
I don't remember which panel it was on but during the Q&A someone asked if CCP ever intended on making fleet boosters be on grid. I believe it was Torfifrans that answered and stated that they did want fleet boosters to be part of the fight and on grid. I will see if I can find a link.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#259 - 2012-04-13 16:25:13 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pLi1J9YrkM&list=PLDDA989F65CD6E98A&index=5&feature=plpp_video

Here it is... 37:30. Sorry...it wasn't Torfi but someone else. I forget his name.

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Vaurion Infara
Doomheim
#260 - 2012-05-08 20:42:58 UTC
To the front page, this is the most pressing issue in pvp in my opinion.

this is it