Crime & Punishment

I think the key word in that screenshot is the Initial payment.

Might be a lot to dec goons/ big alliance to start, but if its an ongoing war it might work out cheaper?

Just saying

Don't wish to presume or anything but isn't the Offending corps wardecc price be in contrast from their number of member to the targets?, the OPs showing us an example which only has 1 member wardeccing the biggest alliances of the game.

I think from preliminary observation this change wouldn't be a bad idea since you have currently a lot of 1, 2 manned corps with the purpose of hunting down others with around 50 defenseless members, not that I'm trying to defend them, just that the concept of a corporation on the meta-gama should fill its purpose of housing multiple players and not just one along with their alts.

Ur stuffs, I can haz?

I think there are alot of different points that are being argued and being mixed together that need to be seperated.

Point 1
The new cost of war dec is too high.
The orginal cost of war decs was 50 mil for the first war, 100 mil for second, 150 for 3rd, etc.
The new forumla for war deccing has 50 mil as standard plus 300k per member with a depreciating amount to create a cap.

Formula: (log2.05831 N)^2 * 300000 * N^0.27
where N = number of members.

This has created a curve cap putting the cost (roughly) of deccing a 1k member at 200 mil, 3k members at 350mil, 4k+ at 500mil.

What this means is that the old war dec style of prvters, adopt, moar tears, etc which was the dec 10 large alliances to give plenty of targets to shoot at gave you the cost of deccing 10 alliance (goons, test, AAA, nulli, etc) total cost of 2.75 bil.

With the new cost to war to dec the same alliances would cost (to dec goons, test, AAA, etc) 500mil+500mil+ 470mil, etc...
giving you a total of 5 bil to dec the same people. Doubling the cost of the war dec.

(personally i dont care, its easy to adjust and adapt and move on with eve. What makes me question ccps intelligence and their target market of protect people so they dont quit so we keep making money so we can finish our vampire game, is that they claim inferno is a pro war update... yet it doubles the cost of war, and is going to remove vast quanties of players that currently do war...)

Point 2
Come fight us at our home in 00 ***.
Yes we could just as easliy fly to your staging systems and fight you there. But we dont have 200 man drake fleets, with 100 man mael alpha fleets, with 2 titan bridges, a capital fleet, and a batphone to PL.
We just dont care for the large fights of, shoot primary, pray you dont get shot cuss you will get alphaed, and then the fight is over for you... we prefer the small gang, skill oriented pvp.
Also why come to you when we can just kill your 10bil JFs and your 4.2 bil rifters with slave sets in cargo :)

Point 3
high sec under 1 banner
This has not been required or even worth it since the costs of war have always been the same. But now with the new costs the people that use to war dec 10 large will now dec 1 large and 9 small to keep their target numbers high enough. (this is all predicted and my personal thoughts, might not be true) Eventually bears will get smart and realize that they can properly dec shield by just all gathering together. make the cost too high and people wont pay for it. (there will probably be 4-10 super large high sec alliances to prevent the idea of dec 1 banner and get to shoot all of high sec)

TLDR
Point 1 = new prices double cost of war. Changes will be made, people will adapt. Inferno is not pro war, CCP needs to protect its cash flow...
Point 2= Keep saying come to 00, we hope you enjoy your capitals and titan bridges. We all see how alot of the 00 alliances cant fight with out their fcs and huge numbers. I would be shocked and awed (and forced to make a public thread apology) if i ever fought a small group of 00 people that fought well in a small gang and killed me.
Point 3= bears get smarter every day. CCP is doing all they can to protect them.

Please argue each point seperatly, i dont want to have to attempt to follow noob / tard / autistic logic

The current war mechanics are boring, i think a bit of spicing up is what it needs.

Allow cynos and supercapitals and capitals to work in highsec.


If highsec pvpers want true PVP, they should be given the experience of a nullsec 0.0 hotdrop and 1000 man fleets that will fill up the highsec systems.

Highsec will become the new 0.0, WAR IS EVERYWHERE!!111!!!!11

High pvpers are cowards who use neutral alts who have protection from concord as easy to use scouts and assists. You can't do that anywhere else.

Since the pvp in highsec is less risky, it should be more costly, after all Concord is providing security.

While is other space its is the players that Provide security.

****, 4b, that's almost one tech moon

Highsec PVP, Inferno version : the blob is coming (to you. And your market hub.)

This is a great opportunity if only the carebears (I'm a part-time carebear) can get over the "someone else in charge" thing and get together to form a large alliance.

stop crying already, oh buhu some isk leaves the game good thing.

I think this will drastically reduce the number of small industrial (alt) corps in hs/low, who only build **** for profit on the market in their pos's and farm moons. Seeing people will prolly look for the cheapest wardecks in the beginning of this change.

The market will feel it and it will force solo people either to go for npc corp or join bigger corps for a more "social gameplay"

Good or bad? I for one dont really care.