Ships & Modules

Relative Velocity or Angular velocity, a miss is still a miss One day you will come up with something better than "One day" to preface your criticisms[/quote]

One day you, will learn how to use punctuation.

And, yes, while it is technically possible to outrun oversized missiles in small, fast ships, this is a relatively fringe case, whereas getting under someone's guns is a completely normal and routine event.

In practice, it doesn't happen. If you're missing with missiles, it's because whatever you're shooting at is too far away, or you're doing something particularly stupid like lobbing torpedos at an interceptor. They really can't code around your particular brand of stupid, so that's okay. In actual practice, 99/100 times missiles can be reasonably said to not miss. This cannot be said of turrets.[/quote]

Haulie you silly ****... Maximum speed for a Standard Light Missile with maximum missile skills is 5250 m/s, slower if you don't have max skills. Most interceptors and some pirate frigates can outrun them from 0 - whatever. Your pig headedness is only exceeded by your malodorous phraseology.

This is a simple case of "the grass is greener" mindset.

When you can only use a limited number of ships or weapons, you psychologically magnify the shortcomings of your stuff and the advantages of other people's stuff.

Once you can fly everything, you can see the pros and cons of all the ships and weapons, and find yourself using a sampling of stuff from each race, depending on the type of PVP you're doing at the moment. Everything is useful: active and passive tanks, armor and shields, missiles and guns, long and short range. And you know what, you realize that Eve is actually really well balanced given it's variety.

More importantly, once you can fly everything, you thank God (or CCP) that such variety exists among the various races, ships, weapons, tank, ewar, etc. It gives you a reason to fly "the other guy's stuff." Making things homogenous would destroy long-term enjoyment of the game. Even CCP's constant buffer/nerf cycles have a useful effect here: they keep the game fresh. FOTM is a good thing, promoting innovation and preventing stagnation.

So keep PVPing, keep training, and enjoy the ride.

There's no Caldari (or Caldari-related pitate faction) ship that doesn't have it's place in the game. Short of the Bantam, even the frigs all have their clear uses - and they are generally effective at whatever that role is.

So...no...Caldari hulls don't suck. You just don't like them. See the difference, cupcake?

I fly all ships sub Capitol. Now what?

I know...

Let's just make everything the same! Problem solved.

what i do find funny is people are saying missiles are fine and the 2 best ships that cal have are over powerd really ?

cal aint got a ship that volleys at 14 k .

or many if any missiles boats that fire viably over 100 k

Maybe try PVP? Or post with your main?

Hey now, my first post was very well thought out and contributed something totally new to the conversation in this thread by looking at the big picture rather than getting lost in the minutiae. It was right on target about the original issue.

Patri's response was snide and I wondered why, so I looked him up and realized his OP was a troll from someone with no idea what they were talking about. So I just called him out on his troll.

If you think that brief exchange between us was worth ranting about, I'm surprised you can tolerate half the threads on these forums! :P

Youd have to talk to CCP about letting ME do that lol




This tho... answer this lol

the second not as much as the first

Don't use it then? All T2 large ammo is fairly pricey. Use it only if it is worth it to you.

As for the penalties, those are kinda dumb.