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Hulkageddon made me quit

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Jacob Staffuer
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-05-02 23:31:42 UTC
Yeah EVE is like, super harsh and hard and stuff.

It's like real life. Survival of the fittest. All that.

*strokes epeen* and I'm good at it, of course. Naturally. Implicitly.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#22 - 2012-05-03 00:18:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Jeremy Firewind wrote:
Hey,

I find it totally untolarable, that 3 1 mill Isk ships can easily gank my tanked 300mill hull. Sorry, but this makes me really sad. It put me out of business for good, that was my last money. Your cool event just cost CCP a subscriber.


Yes tears are delightful, yadda, yadda, no stuff is to be had, because it all exploded.


Ya know......when I started this toon in 2010 and I was noob noob beyond noob, I finally got my mining Osprey and a Badger. H'geddon was not that old and I had no clue what was up.

So I'm mining away in my Osprey and THIS happened:

2010.04.22 15:19:00

Victim: Krixtal Icefluxor
Corp: Federal Navy Academy
Alliance: Unknown
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Osprey
System: Vittenyn
Security: 0.9
Damage Taken: 1960

Involved parties:

Name: XXXXXX (laid the final blow)
Security: 1.60
Corp: Suddenly Ninjas
Alliance: Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Faction: None
Ship: Hurricane
Weapon: 425mm AutoCannon II
Damage Done: 1960


Clueless I got my Badger to get the loot and my ore out of my anchored can, and this happened:

2010.04.22 15:30:00

Victim: Krixtal Icefluxor
Corp: Federal Navy Academy
Alliance: Unknown
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Badger Mark II
System: Vittenyn
Security: 0.9
Damage Taken: 3433

Involved parties:

Name: XXXXXXX (laid the final blow)
Security: 1.60
Corp: Suddenly Ninjas
Alliance: Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Faction: None
Ship: Broadsword
Weapon: 425mm AutoCannon II
Damage Done: 3433


I had next to no money and it took me a week at least to mission enough to get a mining Osprey again.

I'm stiill here.

You live and learn as in life.

As you skill up, read, learn from Corp members, read Hulkageddon Kill Mails and all that later, you learn a LOT.

And things do become either manageable or survivable.

And it's really hard to not find something to do in EVE besides mining. If that's all you are doing, you are missing the entire POINT of the game entirely.

So man up, and deal with your loss and play.

I was so mad, I was determined to get back in my Osprey as soon as possible. And I had to mission to do it, again, not mine.

I did not find out what H'geddon was for another few months.

It is YOUR fault you lost your Hulk. And if you can afford that, another one is not far behind IF you work for it. Or do you want to be given things easy ?

If so, this is not the game for you after all.

So harden up or GTFO.

We don't want to hear it.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#23 - 2012-05-03 00:23:04 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Drake Draconis wrote:
EVE Online requires the following things :

3: IQ Greater than 50 (Ok maybe 100)

To be fair, 100 is the normalized average, and judging by EVE players' math and language skills, I'd say only a fifth of all players meet this requirement.



Less than that. And lurv the Corp name.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Jeremy Firewind
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-05-03 00:31:10 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:

And it's really hard to not find something to do in EVE besides mining. If that's all you are doing, you are missing the entire POINT of the game entirely.

So man up, and deal with your loss and play.

I was so mad, I was determined to get back in my Osprey as soon as possible. And I had to mission to do it, again, not mine.

I did not find out what H'geddon was for another few months.

It is YOUR fault you lost your Hulk. And if you can afford that, another one is not far behind IF you work for it. Or do you want to be given things easy ?

If so, this is not the game for you after all.

So harden up or GTFO.

We don't want to hear it.


If everyone did just that, doing something else than mining, then you'd run out of ships to fly pretty fast. So do not tell me that I miss the point of the game entirely.

What happens here is griefing par excellence. And this has nothing to do with htfu. Would you go and beat up a third grader, knock him sensless, knowing, he has no other possiblity to defend himself and then run around in the street yelling htfu?
Why do not all the griefers htfu and choose a real opponent? Like shooting Goons out of their space or something. Oh wait, maybe there the enemies might fight back and the oh-so-hard destroyer pilots might be send home packing...

Why do you think that pressuring your idea of fun onto others is making them having fun too? I totally lack the time to do more than a couple hours of recreation in front of the PC a week. I like to spend those mining. I wonder who is the carebear here?
Those who know they can grief with absolutely no risk or those who put weeks of gameplay on the line?

So go someplace else with your htfu... As stated before Risk/Reward/Punishment is blown totally out of proportion here.

Aggressive Nutmeg
#25 - 2012-05-03 00:31:29 UTC
Jeremy Firewind wrote:
Hey,

I find it totally untolarable, that 3 1 mill Isk ships can easily gank my tanked 300mill hull. Sorry, but this makes me really sad. It put me out of business for good, that was my last money. Your cool event just cost CCP a subscriber.


Yes tears are delightful, yadda, yadda, no stuff is to be had, because it all exploded.

I notice you're in a German corp. You're not this guy are you?

Also, your spelling is intolerable.

Double also, I'm not here to collect your tears. I think that sucks too. I'm just here to tell you to harden up and learn.

Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.

Jeremy Firewind
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-05-03 00:34:30 UTC
Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:


Also, your spelling is intolerable.

Double also, I'm not here to collect your tears. I think that sucks too. I'm just here to tell you to harden up and learn.


Well aren't you cute.. How many languages do you speak perfectly?

Picking on someone whos first language is not english is kinda lame.

But let me guess, you are just "hardening me up", aren't you?
chris elliot
Wildcard.
Boundary Experts
#27 - 2012-05-03 00:38:41 UTC
Shoulda been mining in a wormhole.


Because.... you know, no one in local means your totally safe to mine away.
Red Rydah
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-05-03 00:40:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Red Rydah
I find Hulkageddon a great experience for me as a player. Just because I can't fly my retriever does not mean I can't play the game. Understanding how Hulkageddon affects the market leads to profit if you know how to read the graphs. I also mine but not with my retriever.

Most important, you learn. A chance encounter with a player (I won't mention his name but he knows who he is) helped me understand how to build a better tank that will benefit me when I start getting serious about mission running. I also got a better understanding on what skills help with what kind of damage resistance on both shield and armor.

Ragequitting not only makes you look like a baby, it also means you lost the opportunity to learn from and experience this great game

RR
Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2012-05-03 00:44:21 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Drake Draconis wrote:
EVE Online requires the following things :

3: IQ Greater than 50 (Ok maybe 100)

To be fair, 100 is the normalized average, and judging by EVE players' math and language skills, I'd say only a fifth of all players meet this requirement.


I yield to your awesome corp name and corrected information SAH! o7CoolCoolLolBig smile

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#30 - 2012-05-03 00:45:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
Jeremy Firewind wrote:

If everyone did just that, doing something else than mining, then you'd run out of ships to fly pretty fast. So do not tell me that I miss the point of the game entirely.




You are indeed slow.

Mining PLUS other things, not either exclusively. I don't know where you got the idea I said don't mine at all. you put words in my fingers and I don't like that at all.

And if we run out of those ships (which will absolutely never happen), that would be their problem then wouldn't it?

I don't even dare confront the rest of your post. All this for the first two sentences. We'd be here all night.

Yes folks, a CareBear is laying into a CareBear !Shocked

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Drake Draconis
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2012-05-03 00:45:54 UTC
Jeremy Firewind wrote:
Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:


Also, your spelling is intolerable.

Double also, I'm not here to collect your tears. I think that sucks too. I'm just here to tell you to harden up and learn.


Well aren't you cute.. How many languages do you speak perfectly?

Picking on someone whos first language is not english is kinda lame.

But let me guess, you are just "hardening me up", aren't you?


Why havn't you quit yet?

I mean you said you where leaving right?

So what the hell is taking so damn long? Quit already!

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Jeremy Firewind
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2012-05-03 00:47:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Jeremy Firewind
Red Rydah wrote:
I find Hulkageddon a great experience for me as a player. Just because I can't fly my retriever does not mean I can't play the game. Understanding how Hulkageddon affects the market leads to profit if you know how to read the graphs. I also mine but not with my retriever.

Most importantly, you learn. A chance encounter with a player (I won't mention his name but he knows who he is) helped me understand how to build a better tank that will benefit me when I start getting serious about mission running. I also got a better understanding on what skills help with what kind of damage resistance on both shield and armor.

Ragequitting not only makes you look like a baby, it also means you lost the opportunity to learn from and experience this great game

RR


If it did not take so long to get back on the feet, then maybe "ragequitting" would not be the option. As I usually have not more than 3-4 hours a week, we are talking about quite some time getting back into the ship.

That being said, after that time, I can have 3 guys in ships, that are earned in like 30 minutes blowing me up again.
As I said, maybe I am a wuss, maybe I look like a baby. Maybe I just want to take my hard earned cash somewhere else for recreation. Geez. Same as I said before. Can't you imagine, that pressuring your idea of fun and entertainment onto someone else does not mean fun and entertainment for them?
Jeremy Firewind
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-05-03 00:49:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Jeremy Firewind
Drake Draconis wrote:
Jeremy Firewind wrote:
Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:


Also, your spelling is intolerable.

Double also, I'm not here to collect your tears. I think that sucks too. I'm just here to tell you to harden up and learn.


Well aren't you cute.. How many languages do you speak perfectly?

Picking on someone whos first language is not english is kinda lame.

But let me guess, you are just "hardening me up", aren't you?


Why havn't you quit yet?

I mean you said you where leaving right?

So what the hell is taking so damn long? Quit already!



yawn, if I had some fish I'd really love to give it to you, since you have been such a nice troll
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#34 - 2012-05-03 00:51:05 UTC
Jeremy Firewind wrote:
Can't you imagine, that pressuring your idea of fun and entertainment onto someone else does not mean fun and entertainment for them?



We've ALL been there. This is NOTHING new. It's been this way for 9 YEARS going.

It's something you have to think your way through.

And after May 29...................do whatever.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

A Lunchbox
Elysian Technologies Enclave
Fraternity.
#35 - 2012-05-03 00:51:35 UTC
What's a hulkageddon? XD

P.S. Cool story bro, pics or it didn't happen, **** or gtfo, etc.
Maxpie
MUSE LLP
BlackRose.
#36 - 2012-05-03 00:52:02 UTC
Jeremy Firewind wrote:

The mechanic to punish you is easily circumvented by just deleting the toon. Rinse, repeat...

This is skilfull exactly where?



This is a valid point actually. It should be 1 toon per account. Grow a pair, don't hide behind recyclable alts.

Oh, and OP, Eve really isn't the game for you.

No good deed goes unpunished

Jeremy Firewind
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-05-03 00:54:37 UTC
Maxpie wrote:
Jeremy Firewind wrote:

The mechanic to punish you is easily circumvented by just deleting the toon. Rinse, repeat...

This is skilfull exactly where?



This is a valid point actually. It should be 1 toon per account. Grow a pair, don't hide behind recyclable alts.

Oh, and OP, Eve really isn't the game for you.



Yes I figured that one out by myself. Sadly I just renewed for another 3 months, so this will still be running for a while, but it's time to move on.

Thank you for your constructive post.
Dodixie MarketSlave
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-05-03 00:54:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Dodixie MarketSlave
Seriusly, I dont want to look harsh of something like that, but everybody knows and you knew before you sing up that EVE is a hardcore game. People plays eve because they can **** other people, PvP and there is no secure area. I mean High sec is highly situational...
To sum up part of the EvE sucess as a game is because of it's ruthless nature, other way people would be playing softcore mmo's like WoW and etc.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#39 - 2012-05-03 00:58:24 UTC
Dodixie MarketSlave wrote:
Seriusly, I dont want to look harsh of something like that, but everybody knows and you knew before you sing up that EVE is a hardcore game. People plays eve because they can **** other people, PvP and there is no secure area. I mean High sec is highly situational...
.



Yup. h'geddon is even fun.

I just don't like Goons.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
#40 - 2012-05-03 00:58:30 UTC  |  Edited by: StonerPhReaK
What are you doing losing ships in nullsec then complaining about losing an imaginary w/e it is you lost?

http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=1306141

During hulkageddon the mails get posted extra fast. So stop trollin cuzz round here it aint fishin season.

Its HULKAGEDDON!

Signatures wer cooler when we couldn't remove them completely.