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I support low sec buffers between regions (10 systems deep at least).

Would be a nice buff to regional markets.

And see escortation services pop up the people they were supposed to escort? Well that stuff never gets old, does it.

For the reasons so elequantly stated by the above chap, I do not support this idea.

Cause a Null Sec blob perma-camping a key travel route is just so cool.

But it sounds stupid. Why would any interstellar empire allow it's trade routes to be broken with areas of rampant lawlessness and piracy? No.

It wouldn't. If anything, just the opposite. They would have law enforcement and military crawling all over the borders staring and each other and be obsessively investigating each crime as a potential act of espionage.

For God's sake, the only equivalent to the most extreme level of border tension I can think of is the Korean Demilitarized Zone, which is probably one of the most monitored areas on the planet.

And even if the Empires hate each other, they aren't going to allow their trade routes to be ruined. North Korea's breaking from this logic by being a hermit kingdom doesn't count, because North Korea is ruled by a dynasty of insane megalomaniacs who demonstrably do not care if their entire nation starves to death.

Well I do like the idea that there would be low-sec surrounding the empires. It makes me think of what happened in the dark ages.

However, it's not necessary to revitalize low-sec.

I think the way to get more people/ interest in low-sec is to stop thinking of it as 'insta-death zone' or even 'PvP' or 'Faction war zone'.

Instead, I would consider it the 'bad part of town'. Kind of dangerous, but kind of fun.

It's still Empire space after all, it's just the place that the governments of Empire have less reach and authority. Considering that both the Amarr and Caldari societies are authoritarian Police states, don't you imagine that the low security systems would seem like an attractive place for many people to live?

What I would suggest is this:

1. Gambling: Probably the oldest game in human history. There are already independent and unaffiliated EVE gambling for ISK sites spreading like a rash on the internet. CCP is missing out on HUGE interest and revenue with this. Some gambling sites make a fortune with nothing more than online roulette or poker. Just declare gambling illegal in high sec, and open up casinos in low sec. Watch the miners come to spend their money in the low sec casinos. Just make sure the gambling games stick with the EVE theme please.

2. Pleasure Centers: Ditto.

3. Black Markets: It seems like there was a half-hearted effort to start this in EVE, then it got pulled. EVE needs a black market, with smuggling, etc. These would be trade hubs for illegal goods not available in high sec, like drugs, pirate faction things, and so on.

Have you noticed you can buy 'Blood Raider' ships in Amarr Emperor Station? Really? How is that possible? To me that seems as likely as selling a Satanic death metal T-shirt on the streets of Riyahd in Saudi Arabia.

Stuff that is contraband should ONLY be available for sale at black market stations located in low sec. That includes stuff like slaves, drugs, Pirate faction ships AND IMPLANTS. Maybe it would be possible to sell contraband stuff in high sec through contracts, but it shouldn't be possible though the high-sec market system.

Smuggling: There are a lot of people in EVE that would love to be smugglers, but currently there is nothing to smuggle, it's not very profitable, and the customs officer mechanism doesn't work very well. Even hauling sucks as a career, ISK wise. Smuggling should be ten times as lucrative as hauling and ten times the fun. Make it so that agents in high sec are addicted to things like drugs, and give you a bonus if you can get them some 'crash'.

'Dark side' : I would argue that low-sec is the 'dark side' of high sec. Not just an empty battlefield, but a mirror image of high sec's hidden, ugly side.

Settlement zones: Like Australia or colonial America, low-sec becomes a home to those persecuted in an authoritarian high-sec. Obviously, criminal is not always 'evil', such as the Amarrians that want to liberate the slaves for example, or Caldari socialists, or other peculiar factions. Just as high-sec is split up into various regions (such as the holders, etc), so too would low-sec be split into different 'territories', each with it's own story and culture. There could be weird religious cults in low-sec too, and of course it would be a storyline mission to discover these cults and deal with them.

Pirate Faction war: I would have the NPC Pirates such as the Guristas, etc. hold territories and form alliances that player pirates can join. This way, the Pirates would be fighting each other for territory as the militia does. I would also make it so the Pirates can capture stations too, just as the FW militias can.

first, make mining vessels that dont blow up with one or two hits of a destroyer. People will take them into low sec if they feel they stand a chance.

most belts in low sec are unused while ppl stay in the comfort of high sec.

Its one positive incentive ccp can give.

Or, just do what i propose and ban concord and make all of high sec into low sec systems and be done with it. everyone for themselves.

Second, work out a SOV light plan for low sec so random corps can own a system as they branch out and even become enticed into WH or null. Just an idea. After all CONCORD has no military authority in low sec other than to ding you on your sec status against themselves when you comitt an illegal act.


maybe give manufacturing incntive in low sec that are better than high sec.

You really need to stop making this suggestion its ridiculous. Actually consider it. We are talking about Empires here with seats of council and Capitals and Assets and areas they call theirs. You would be breaking the very fundamentals of Eve Lore to suggest these empires have no sense of being civilized and that they should not enforce Law and Order. Cos sure lets take the MET out of London and the NYPD out of New York?!

Now as for the proposal i support it and actually i think it could make sense.

However perhaps the buffer would only be between Empires that do not like each other Or this being too tricky due to layout have a buffer round all empires but with perhaps high sec bridges between empires that are more friendly. This would create far greater diversity in trade and may encourage a greater spread of players rather than such divergance on areas such as Jita

I'm not shrugging it off, though perhaps it was a little bold to just label it as ridiculous. But i gave my reasons for feeling so as no self respecting empire goes without enforcing Law and Order. Though perhaps each empire should be give their own rather than a unified Concord marshaling races that are at war with each other.

And i think that these buffers if done right would encourage people to move into low sec. Just as each race already has combat strengths and weaknesses this would allow greater opportunity to give them market strengths and weaknesses and varying abundances of resources between races. There by traders especially would be encouraged to travel across the gulfs where their races abundances would be worth more. Fighters would be sent across to the rival empire on missions and higher level missions may be based in the low sec gulf closer to the front line so to speak.

So yes i feel it would very much encourage players of all types to venture into low sec and entice them into its game play. Between friendly empires there would be longer but safer high sec corridors. though perhaps as the roid belts of say a 0.7 system has rats which concord does nothing about these corridor systems would have roaming rats concord does nothing about. And then when it comes to trading between warring Empires where the rewards would be greatest players would need to look at fitting warp stabilizers, cloaking devices and other defensive tools to make it through as there would be no safe corridor but only low sec where PvP would be the fear.

All as i can say is that currently i have no encouragement realy to leave high sec as all the empires are conected. And yet further to this i see no reason to leve Jita and the surounding regions... and im Minmatar!