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They aren't. It's basically a loose collective of radical socialists/communists and teenagers who won't leave mommy's basement. Their idea of "fair" is that other people should take the risks and gamble with thier assets, but if it pays off then everyone should reap the rewards. While I do agree that some of the stuff they say makes sense, I have to temper that with the fact they are all batshit insane in one form or another.

Recently on another forums I actually had someone tell me that I didn't deserve the health care I got as a veteran with service-related injuries. He was 18, living with mommy and daddy still, unemployed and unwilling to look for a job. I am 26, four years of honorable service who had back problems. According to him, every American should have free health care and the government should be taking care of it's people. "You worked," he said, "and I don't. I should still be able to live comfortably."

It's a good theory, if you're completely ********. One of the things people like this don't get is that eventually, everyone decides not to work. That means no one is living comfortably. But they don't care. Their thought process is "I shouldn't have to work to make $20.00 an hour." They want that as the minimum wage, by the way, and expect that cost of living will not go up (hint: IT ******* WILL).

But that's what you get when delusional hippies and teenagers without a brain start thinking "life should be fair". You're over 10, life is no longer fair. Get the word out of your vocabulary.

People see a system not working properly. People get angry. People show their voice and want change. People don't know ho the system actually work or how to fix it. People shout to the elected leaders to help them. Leaders ignore them to perpetuate same failed system.

The camping was just the initial voicing of their unhappiness. Just a modest start that raised some awareness to the otherwise ignorant. It will likely not be the end. After all US is not really that good place to live.

Is that so difficult to see?

I didn't really follow the "Occupy" movement down in the states, but when one sprouted up in Vancouver, all that happened was a large group of lazy people camped on the Art Gallery lawn. They squatted, shot up drugs and demanded free EVERYTHING. Bus passes, housing, food, cars, spending money, you name it, they WANTED it. They never came to a consensus, either. It changed every week or so.

After a girl died of an OD, general trashing of public property, and constant badgering of anybody who passed by in a set of business loafers (including myself), the "Occupy" movement has done nothing but anger a lot of people who worked for a living in the area.

Some people do need help and can't drag themselves from the gutter because of mental illness or drug addiction, but what I saw was able bodied, able minded people sitting there whining and bitching for free stuff they didn't want to work for. I was unimpressed.

eh, was just replying to Anya.

The poor fools think protesting changes things.

The system is not working well other places either. Some did it just because, and some just because it was something new. But mainly for solidarity with other people in the same situation. In a world growing smaller, one cannot really hope to perpetuate silly notions such as countries in the long term when the people in general are more or less the same everywhere.

People know they are angry, and Occupy was one way to shoe their anger. First step is to acknowledge you re angry after all.

And, tbh, only fools did not see their agenda (or swallowed corporate owned media about Occupy not having any agenda). They where by and large against corruption in the now mixed political and financial system ******* them over and giving huge bailout to banks.



Indeed. They gave it a shot, and they where ridiculed by media and ignored by leaders.

Yet, the same problems persist, but are now more bare and obvious for all to see. And if protest do not work... that is the reason US people are allowed to have guns right? To take on a corrupt government.

Yes, I am sure all of them did that.

If you haven't figured it out yet, it is communication devices like smart phones that enabled this kind of movement in the first place. Twitter and other online media accessed by a mobile devices enables rapid organization and spread of information not otherwise possible. Go figure that they need smart phones with twitter (It is 2012 people, stop living in the dark ages). People are just lured in by ads form apple to buy inferior devices under the guise of belonging to a "cool" culture. Any smart protester would use a HTC or Samsung device. But what kind of phone they used is irrelevant anyways.

As for the coffee, I bet most of them where drinking form the rag tag kitchen they used, no? A man needs hes caffeine, and if no source is close by one might have to resort to star-bucks if it is the only source.

Then again, it was the financial sector and the banking industry intertwined with politics that was the main issue, not overpriced coffee and electronics.

And yes, a few people would be hypocrites just there for the "action". But one just gotta ignore those like one do in any other instance.

I would suggest you use some alternative media sources other then mainstream for your information.

so are they hipsters with lots of money out of college with no jobs to pick from, or are they dirt poor druggies who can't afford anything????

You have to understand, Occupy isn't an organization or even a movement. It was inspired by the Arab Spring things in Libya and Egypt. Those things didn't have organization or agendas either. Just people who were fed up with what their governments/power systems were doing. Same with Occupy. People feel like their opinions aren't being heard via the media or via voting for politicians.

And Occupy has had some actual effect, even they're hard to see. For example, at the 2011 G20 summit of finance ministers and central bankers, the buzz around the whole conference was about Occupy (in it's various international versions). Occupy had the economic planners of the 20 richest countries worried. Oh no, the rabble are rousing. Oh no, the educated youth of our countries are rejecting our system, etc. They became aware that a sizable sector of their countries was pissed off, and that had to have affected their discussions somewhat. "On second thought, maybe we'd better wait on giving the finance industry that perk."

We all like to think it can, and even sometimes call the 60's the decade of change. But for all their protesting over things, not a damn thing changed. The Vietnam war was probably the most widely protested, and it just kept on trucking for 20 years, no matter how many people protested. Same could be said about all the protests over the Iraq war.

I can't think of anything protesting has ever helped or changed.