EVE General Discussion

Recently spent a few days in empire killing everything I saw that looked expensive. Was good times. But it made me remember just why living in 0.0 is so nice for us, and why we look down on people who live there. Nothing in empire works. Nothing.

Stations don't work: The first day or so we were there, you couldn't undock from the stations without immediately going to blackscreen and having to relog. It made scanning and killing industrials very easy, let me tell you. As they sat there with their holds full of faction mods and tengu subsystems.

Overview doesn't work: In 0.0 the overview is simple. You set it so blues aren't displayed. The only people on your overview at any time, aren't blue to you. And you kill them. That's how 0.0 works. In empire there are only certain people you can shoot at any given time, and there is no reliable way to see them on the overview. You cannot remove neutrals from your overview, so it only shows these people, because to eve -everyone- is neutral in some form or another. So why even have that button? We also got a ton of laughs out of people getting concorded for shooting us, because the overview doesn't display a reliable difference between pods that can and can't be shot (They're both red lol).

Concord doesn't work: So many laughs watching highsec pilots die shooting us. It's like a gamble for us. We get shot, maybe concord decides to shoot back at them, even though we legally can be shot. So many tears there. Concord is so broken it's wonderful.

Faction Police don't work: We had a lot of trouble with this one. Faction police randomly attacking everything that undocked, regardless of sec status. People that had been concorded getting attacked by faction police even with good sec status. People who previous had bad sec status getting faction policed even though it was good now. Faction police are so wonderfully broken.

Wardecs don't work. CCP does nothing to exploiters of this: Wardec system is a bad joke. You can easily dupe it in so many ways to your advantage. CCP does nothing about this apparently. Highlights from this were losing an entire fleet to Concord, when we shot a wardec fleet... despite getting no concord warning. Wardec pilots who sat on the undock killing us with impunity, because Concord didn't technically recognize them as a valid target, so we couldn't fire back. The -real- highlight from this was a hilarious hour long back and forth conversation we had with a GM, while we were sitting in space tackled by bugged wardecs we couldn't shoot. With no way to do anything but remote-rep each other while they shot us. The GM had -no idea- what the problem was, how to fix it, or what to do about it. Highsec is wonderful~

IN CONCLUSION: Empire is so hilariously broken. And I find it amusing that people still live there when 0.0 is open to anybody that wants to come make a place for themselves in the real part of eve, where you don't have to deal with broken stations, buggy police, broken concord, and non-working wardecs. Feel free to share your own thoughts about living in such a terribad place, or come be :mad: about losing freighters to me. Go wild!

thank you, come again

HTFU!

Cannot wait to see how the goons troll this one, Oh wait....

Yeah it is buggy but the system in one location has never been pushed this hard. Kinda cool really.

I remember guy who trip form 0.0 across empire and he steal my fake plexes inside cargo bait, he was so greedyy even probably rich because he living in 0.0... He die and he come back with faction cruiser to get revenge, and after 3min i kill him again. Most of null carebaras after comeback to empire are stoned because they got no idea how empire works they cry because of neutrals or bad overwiev ;)

Also go back to your 0.0 carebearland.

Stealth recruiting thread is obvious.

lol hisec mission runners telling us to go back to carebearland

how do you like hiding behind broken mechanics?

Interesting viewpoint. I for one never like playing a game with to many rules either. This kind of client/server behavior has just been confusing in the past. I really knew it wouldn't pass a stress test and was waiting to hear where it was broken.

There's a certain game to breaking the rules though. Some people enjoy it. Whole professions are built on trying to break them or taking advantage of CCP's confusion.

I do have to say that your description begins to make 0.0 look like easy mode. I guess it really would be if you didn't have to pay for your own ships or lead yourself. I played WOW for a few hours and joined this dungeon gang and we happily hopped around with our gay swirling colors blindly following our leader. There was no thought or repercussions. It must be the closest thing I can come up with as to what it must be like to play on your team. Sounds like a relaxed way to kill a couple hours, Thanks for the invite to your dungeon. Can I just send you ISK or contract HULKS?

lol @ the nub that can't remove neutrals from his overview.

I set my traveling overview to only show stations, gates, and people i have some existing standing to so that I can point out reds in corp and say hi to blues in local and so no one else.

None of these things have ever happened to me o_o Am I lucky or is he a fibber. Only time will tell!

This is a viewpoint I can't understand. Highsec players live in a system protected under the blanket of faction police, and Concord. The only people who can even shoot at you have to wardec you first. And then you can just use neutral corps, or some other form of wardec shielding.

I live in an eve where every person can shoot you, at any time, for any reason. There is no police to protect you. No wardecs to let you know they're hunting you. One minute you're on an op, the next you have a cyno open and capitals pouring into your head from someone who just thought it would be fun to do so.