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off grid bonus nerf
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EVE Stig
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-05-01 02:46:19 UTC
Anyone have a link to where CCP announced that the of grid bonuses will no longer work? Got a friend skilling into command ships that wants to know about it

"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!
Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-05-01 02:57:18 UTC
I think it's in there somewhere

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VcnkUaUCPA
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#3 - 2012-05-01 03:06:18 UTC
EVE Stig wrote:
Got a friend.......



That's what they all say.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
EVE Stig
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-05-01 04:03:59 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
EVE Stig wrote:
Got a friend.......



That's what they all say.


ah see just cause you dont have any doesnt meant its wrong for the rest of us

"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-05-01 04:04:45 UTC
I am a command ship pilot, and I want to know. Cannot be too soon.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
EVE Stig
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-05-01 04:15:08 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
I am a command ship pilot, and I want to know. Cannot be too soon.


and can I get a time increment 44 minutes is looooong with that guy's voice

"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-05-01 04:59:18 UTC
they said they want boosters on grid

no timeframe or eta was given
EVE Stig
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-05-01 05:02:03 UTC
Gilbaron wrote:
they said they want boosters on grid

no timeframe or eta was given


no... a timeframe in the vid lol
like 4 min in, 5 min, etc

"Some say that he is actually dead, but the Grim Reaper is too afraid to tell him." "Some say he is the 3rd member of Daft Punk and he did the vocals of "Technologic" song. All we know is,he's called EVE Stig"!
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-05-01 05:07:26 UTC
Loki boosted 100mn Speedy Tengu to the rescue

Ferox #1
Notta Monsta
NemoThrax Mining Inc.
#10 - 2012-05-01 05:45:14 UTC
If that happens I will have an off grid booster account that will never be used again.. But on the bright side I will save 500 mill ISK per month since I will no longer need to PLEX it.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#11 - 2012-05-01 05:55:00 UTC
There's "on grid" and then there's "on grid".

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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-05-01 06:25:14 UTC
Notta Monsta wrote:
If that happens I will have an off grid booster account that will never be used again.. But on the bright side I will save 500 mill ISK per month since I will no longer need to PLEX it.


Hurray! Can I have your stuffz then since I would actually use it?

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Notta Monsta
NemoThrax Mining Inc.
#13 - 2012-05-01 06:41:02 UTC
Markus Reese wrote:
Notta Monsta wrote:
If that happens I will have an off grid booster account that will never be used again.. But on the bright side I will save 500 mill ISK per month since I will no longer need to PLEX it.


Hurray! Can I have your stuffz then since I would actually use it?


I may sell the toon (if the nerf indeed goes into effect) but gonna keeps me stuffs as that I will still be able to use.. :p
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-05-01 08:49:35 UTC
I laugh everytime whiney players can't cope with someone meta-gaming better then them, as to deal with an offgrid booster you either catch it before hand or GTFO of the system the boster ship is in; or just bring your own command booster and now its like either side didn't have one (both get buffed up, both are practicly equal!). Really, its that simple as those idiots that say a hullk pilot needs to put a tank on the ship...deal with it yourself and get out of the problem you are facing. Game breaking unfairness...remember nothing is unfair in EVE until you whine about it Roll.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-05-01 16:27:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Markus Reese
Aqriue wrote:
I laugh everytime whiney players can't cope with someone meta-gaming better then them, as to deal with an offgrid booster you either catch it before hand or GTFO of the system the boster ship is in; or just bring your own command booster and now its like either side didn't have one (both get buffed up, both are practicly equal!). Really, its that simple as those idiots that say a hullk pilot needs to put a tank on the ship...deal with it yourself and get out of the problem you are facing. Game breaking unfairness...remember nothing is unfair in EVE until you whine about it Roll.


Hello faceless one, your words do not exist because you have no face!

If you did however, I would say it needs to go because anything being done without user imput, risk or challenge is lame. It isn't anything at all to do with the "boster" itself. Plain and simple, sitting in/at a pos boosting is pathetic. U-mad because your dumb freebits afk boosting alt going to become useless and you spent so much into a triple co-pro loki with no offgrid?

This is eve, show up or GTFO. Not in combat is not doing anything therefore should not apply anything.

I never said it was unfair. I can easily sit offgrid, in safespots you name it in my command ship, but I am not a ****ing ***** and lay down my ship. Anything that lets people do stuff in high risk space with no/low risk shouldn't exist. Maybe we should just go whatever and have the ability to use ganglinks while cloaked.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Varesk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-05-01 16:33:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Varesk
Markus Reese wrote:
Aqriue wrote:
I laugh everytime whiney players can't cope with someone meta-gaming better then them, as to deal with an offgrid booster you either catch it before hand or GTFO of the system the boster ship is in; or just bring your own command booster and now its like either side didn't have one (both get buffed up, both are practicly equal!). Really, its that simple as those idiots that say a hullk pilot needs to put a tank on the ship...deal with it yourself and get out of the problem you are facing. Game breaking unfairness...remember nothing is unfair in EVE until you whine about it Roll.


Hello faceless one, your words do not exist because you have no face!

If you did however, I would say it needs to go because anything being done without user imput, risk or challenge is lame. It isn't anything at all to do with the "boster" itself. Plain and simple, sitting in/at a pos boosting is pathetic. U-mad because your dumb freebits afk boosting alt going to become useless and you spent so much into a triple co-pro loki with no offgrid?

This is eve, show up or GTFO. Not in combat is not doing anything therefore should not apply anything.

I never said it was unfair. I can easily sit offgrid, in safespots you name it in my command ship, but I am not a ****ing ***** and lay down my ship. Anything that lets people do stuff in high risk space with no/low risk shouldn't exist. Maybe we should just go whatever and have the ability to use ganglinks while cloaked.



They have these things in the game called Combat Scanner Probes. They can scan out ships that are sitting in safe spots giving links. I know its hard to believe and totally not real, but they are there. You will need to train some skills and buy a probe launcher. I suggest you go with the Sisters Expanded Launcher with Sister Combat Probes and a Covert Ops Frigate. The ship will give you a bonus to scanning. Also look in to some rigs. They will also help.

There are some great videos on YouTube that will show you how to scan.

Hope this helps.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-05-01 16:42:09 UTC
I know all about the combat scanner probes, I use them and I know how to avoid them. I can get a ship scanned down in rapid order, and know the best way to counter the combat scanner is if you are running a defensive thing, I have 20 safespots set up and park cheap ships at them making a whole pile of deadspaces with ships. Setting my dscan right I know whether it is my site, or other the other locations being scanned.

I also know that I can at a POS all warm and fuzzy where they wouldn't be able to get me, unless a fleetfight wants to occur at the pos. And that is the problem.

Something for nothing and your tank for free. It can be done, but really any half arsed commship pilot can avoid it without difficulty. I am not nor have I ever said that they cannot be countered. The issue is I know how they work, and I know how effective and the power of the booster ships for in reality no risk. I think it is a pathetic sissy way of play which is why I fly mine into combat. Or do you think that sitting at a pos in null is an example of leet play worthy of a Pvp game?

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
AureoBroker
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-05-01 16:42:51 UTC
Varesk wrote:
Markus Reese wrote:
Aqriue wrote:
I laugh everytime whiney players can't cope with someone meta-gaming better then them, as to deal with an offgrid booster you either catch it before hand or GTFO of the system the boster ship is in; or just bring your own command booster and now its like either side didn't have one (both get buffed up, both are practicly equal!). Really, its that simple as those idiots that say a hullk pilot needs to put a tank on the ship...deal with it yourself and get out of the problem you are facing. Game breaking unfairness...remember nothing is unfair in EVE until you whine about it Roll.


Hello faceless one, your words do not exist because you have no face!

If you did however, I would say it needs to go because anything being done without user imput, risk or challenge is lame. It isn't anything at all to do with the "boster" itself. Plain and simple, sitting in/at a pos boosting is pathetic. U-mad because your dumb freebits afk boosting alt going to become useless and you spent so much into a triple co-pro loki with no offgrid?

This is eve, show up or GTFO. Not in combat is not doing anything therefore should not apply anything.

I never said it was unfair. I can easily sit offgrid, in safespots you name it in my command ship, but I am not a ****ing ***** and lay down my ship. Anything that lets people do stuff in high risk space with no/low risk shouldn't exist. Maybe we should just go whatever and have the ability to use ganglinks while cloaked.



They have these things in the game called Combat Scanner Probes. They can scan out ships that are sitting in safe spots giving links. I know its hard to believe and totally not real, but they are there. You will need to train some skills and buy a probe launcher. I suggest you go with the Sisters Expanded Launcher with Sister Combat Probes and a Covert Ops Frigate. The ship will give you a bonus to scanning. Also look in to some rigs. They will also help.

There are some great videos on YouTube that will show you how to scan.

Hope this helps.


And a properly-flying booster is TOTALLY going to be within 150km when you have finished scanning+warping.
TOTALLY.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#19 - 2012-05-01 17:25:28 UTC
I have to agree that it is good game design to have ships that affect combat at least be required to be on the same grid as the combat.

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Notta Monsta
NemoThrax Mining Inc.
#20 - 2012-05-01 18:36:34 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
I have to agree that it is good game design to have ships that affect combat at least be required to be on the same grid as the combat.


I have too agree 100% for pvp type combat, every piece of the war machine should be on the battlefield. But what about solo pve in a WH or boosting mission running newbs with low SP, I don't think the rats care if there is an off grid booster.

I like my booster toon but don't want to babysit it while on grid in any combat environment, removing off grid boosting would in effect take me out of the boosting business as I would rather pew than boost.
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