EVE General Discussion

…you mean aside from them knowing full well how it worked then, how it had nothing to do with difficulty or complexity, and (since they're still doing it) understand how it works now.

The things that made it (supposedly, but not actually) difficult back then then are still at work right now (and still don't make it difficult). And none of it had anything to do with quality, which was, indeed, just a matter of grinding.

In fact, come to think of it, you haven't even explained how you think quality made things difficult for you. So: how did it do that?

He said that “I don't think EVE-O should be complicated - I think it should be difficult.”

The problem is that he then used R&D agents as an example — something that was not difficult back then, since there was so little choice due to quality, and which is more difficult now, since you actually have to choose whom to work for and how much you get out of it.

First of all, my apologies for slamming the vets with a general statement. However, there are many examples where old timers are using out-dated features as justification & argumentation, so i'm not entirely wrong - just ****-poor at putting it in the right context.

Back to R&D: I did plan out how I was going to set up three characters with R&D agents when I started out and I must admit that spreadsheets were involved, but it was not the purpose of the exercice. The plan was pretty sexy on paper to be honest.

Old fact: a level 3 quality 16 agent researching Quantum Physics is more profitable than a level 4 quality 2 agent researching Electronic Engineering.

New fact: a level 3 agent researching Quantum Physics are still more more profitable than a level 4 agent researching Electronic Engineering, but that is just one example in one region. I'm not sure what the overall impact is as I have just lost interest in R&D.

With all skills at level 4/5 and the necessary standing it becomes just another market/logistics challenge i.e. how far am I willing to travel to make x profit from y datacores.

I liked the challenge of setting it up. Starting new accounts to sling-shot new toons to high faction standing via COSMOS missions and then fleet them up for the necessary min corp standing. In hindsight it sounds really boring, but it was in-between alliance wars and I must have been VERY bored :)

I now have 11 R&D agents at lvl 4 and they have served me VERY well in the past. I was planning on taking them all to lvl 5 and make a few more for re-selling but now I just lost interest.