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Jiska Ensa
Estrale Frontiers
#61 - 2012-05-01 14:04:14 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
THE L0CK wrote:
concord should be removed. Ganking receives a 1 hour GCC that allows anyone to shoot on sight and -5 sec status makes you remain that way until status is upgraded.

Let us govern ourselves.


*LOL*

That either is a troll, or you simply have no clue what a GREAT idea that is.

In short, it would mean that there's no punishment at all. :D



Oh, and you can't dock, jump, or log-out for an hour. And no one can remote-anything you Twisted
Velicitia
XS Tech
#62 - 2012-05-01 14:06:07 UTC
Gerald Taric wrote:
EVE is not only 100% PvP.

Wrong, sorry.

Gerald Taric wrote:
Ganking is not desired in HighSec

Wrong again

Gerald Taric wrote:
HighSec = Empire space unter strong control of empire state forces. A state would not get you away with murder and or damage to foreign property.

Wrong yet again (as far as we're concerned -- hisec is under strong control of CONCORD ... not the empire navies so much).



Now, with that said ... the carebears that think they're "leet PvP" because they can dec an industrial corporation in hisec ... well, they're just as bad as the miners who won't go to low/null because of the perceived danger...

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#63 - 2012-05-01 14:10:12 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
THE L0CK wrote:
concord should be removed. Ganking receives a 1 hour GCC that allows anyone to shoot on sight and -5 sec status makes you remain that way until status is upgraded.

Let us govern ourselves.


*LOL*

That either is a troll, or you simply have no clue what a GREAT idea that is.

In short, it would mean that there's no punishment at all. :D



Actually it was a troll, I forgot to mention that before I went to work yesterday. Just wanted to clarify that as I saw similar request spawn up in new threads.

Edit: It's a pity you couldn't figure out which it was.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#64 - 2012-05-01 14:11:56 UTC
TWHC Assistant wrote:
TrollSuggestion Of The Day:

Delay CONCORD response time by a factor of 3, leaving gankers more time to deal damage, but let CONCORD confiscate/destroy the wreck of the victim as well as that of the ganker's ship. No loot for anyone.

Discuss.



I want more of your oh so lovely SadSadSadCry

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#65 - 2012-05-01 14:13:08 UTC
Velicitia wrote:



... well, they're just as bad as the miners who won't go to low/null because of the perceived danger...



Percieved....and EXPERIENCE 100% of the time.

You forgot that part. Evil

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Gerald Taric
NEO DYNAMICS
#66 - 2012-05-02 09:39:09 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Gerald Taric wrote:
EVE is not only 100% PvP.
Wrong, sorry.
Mining, trading, researching, refining, ratting, sleeper-ing,collecting, building,scanning, hacking, ... many actions, which might be related to PvP, but are NOT pure PvP.

We could also claim "EVE is 100% economy" because destroying ships let the market florish.

In order to pinpoint it: A player can be actively busy in EVE for weeks without getting involved in any PvP action.

Saying "EVE is 100% PvP" then would mean, this player isn't playing EVE. And stating this in an indirect way leads immediatelly to the lovely question "who defines how to play EVE right?".

Velicitia wrote:
Gerald Taric wrote:
Ganking is not desired in HighSec
Wrong again
We are technically allowed to do so, we are allowed to do so by game rules, but CONCORD shooting at Ganker shows, that - seen from "storyline view" - it is not desired (((by CONCORD))).

Concerning the other two statements, i have no noteworthy veto.
Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
#67 - 2012-05-02 09:49:19 UTC
You should be barred from all stations that the character you ganked has high standings towards and not allowed to jump through stargates as long as you are GCC. Let's make ganking fun for everyone.

SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN!! http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schalac
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#68 - 2012-05-02 11:13:22 UTC
TWHC Assistant wrote:
TrollSuggestion Of The Day:

Delay CONCORD response time by a factor of 3, leaving gankers more time to deal damage, but let CONCORD confiscate/destroy the wreck of the victim as well as that of the ganker's ship. No loot for anyone.

Discuss.

Please don't ever post in the forums again, your brain broken, very sad. Ugh

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#69 - 2012-05-02 11:15:46 UTC
TWHC Assistant wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Only if the player's sec status immediately drops to -10 for willfully committing such a heinous, violent, murderous criminal act in civilized space. Even then there still needs to be some restitution made to the victim. Anything else is simply Welfare PvP.

No. If the victim wants restitution then he can get it himself.


Utterly untrue in most cases. Your just an Idiot Troll.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
TWHC Assistant
#70 - 2012-05-02 11:43:44 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
I want more of your oh so lovely SadSadSadCry

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Percieved....and EXPERIENCE 100% of the time.

You forgot that part.

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Look who's talkin'.

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Utterly untrue in most cases. Your just an Idiot Troll.

You seem to have lost your arguments. So I need to ask. Did your mom buy the wrong cereals and now she will not even listen to your emo rages and how unfair this all is? Tell me, I will listen.
Singulis Pacifica
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2012-05-02 13:28:17 UTC
How about.....no?

Unless players with a sec status of 3.0 or higher can actively shoot at any player with a negative sec. status. (this without CONCORD interference) Gankers vs. Sheriffs. Coming to a system near you.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#72 - 2012-05-02 13:45:08 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
TWHC Assistant wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Only if a ganker's criminal flag lasts until they make restitution to the victim and pay a fine for their actions. Until they do, they're shoot on sight in high-sec in concord systems and by the faction police/sentries that own the space in which the criminal action took place. The current policy of 15 minutes on the most wanted list is pretty insulting for the tough as nails professional gankers.


Drop the flag altogether, but give a sec status penalty together with the confiscation/destruction of the items that are being fought over.

Only if the player's sec status immediately drops to -10 for willfully committing such a heinous, violent, murderous criminal act in civilized space. Even then there still needs to be some restitution made to the victim. Anything else is simply Welfare PvP.



Civilized? Eve civilized? Woaw, woaw, woaw, hold the phone. Where in Eve do you live?

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Gerald Taric
NEO DYNAMICS
#73 - 2012-05-02 15:44:34 UTC
Sobaan Tali wrote:
Civilized? Eve civilized? Woaw, woaw, woaw, hold the phone. Where in Eve do you live?
In HighSec LolBear

*sorry could not resist* ;-)
stoicfaux
#74 - 2012-05-02 16:03:30 UTC
Sobaan Tali wrote:

Civilized? Eve civilized? Woaw, woaw, woaw, hold the phone. Where in Eve do you live?

My bad for not being clear. The NPCs, the ones who "own" high-sec, are civilized. The players, not so much.

And yes, high-sec. Oh, the shame.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Piquet Raddei
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#75 - 2012-05-02 17:14:13 UTC
TWHC Assistant wrote:
Piquet Raddei wrote:
TWHC Assistant wrote:
TrollSuggestion Of The Day:

Delay CONCORD response time by a factor of 3, leaving gankers more time to deal damage, but let CONCORD confiscate/destroy the wreck of the victim as well as that of the ganker's ship. No loot for anyone.

Discuss.


I see yet another player who doesn't have the talent or the balls to go outside the safeties of "high security space" to engage players that can actually shoot back...

How's that for a discussion?

I sense hate!! This idea needs to be implemented immediately.


Might I suggest injecting the "interpretive reading" skill? You'll need some prereq's first - I suggest "intelligence V" to start...

No hate at all - in fact just boredom. Here's exactly what your post says:

"I want to get away with being a douchebag in high-security space." In fact, furthermore, it says:

"I don't want there to be high security space." Which means in effect you're trying to remove an aspect of the game that has existed since it's creation, as far as I'm aware.

Yeah good luck with that.

Change outta your panties, remove your breast pump (from wherever you have it stuck...) and go out to low-sec/null-sec and shoot sh!t.

"But they might shoot back at wittle me!!"

Yes - they might and probably will...

"But I don't wanna get brone up!"

Then you should visit www.worldofwarcraft.com...
TWHC Assistant
#76 - 2012-05-02 17:19:41 UTC
Piquet Raddei wrote:
TWHC Assistant wrote:
Piquet Raddei wrote:
TWHC Assistant wrote:
TrollSuggestion Of The Day:

Delay CONCORD response time by a factor of 3, leaving gankers more time to deal damage, but let CONCORD confiscate/destroy the wreck of the victim as well as that of the ganker's ship. No loot for anyone.

Discuss.


I see yet another player who doesn't have the talent or the balls to go outside the safeties of "high security space" to engage players that can actually shoot back...

How's that for a discussion?

I sense hate!! This idea needs to be implemented immediately.


Might I suggest injecting the "interpretive reading" skill? You'll need some prereq's first - I suggest "intelligence V" to start...

No hate at all - in fact just boredom. Here's exactly what your post says:

"I want to get away with being a douchebag in high-security space." In fact, furthermore, it says:

"I don't want there to be high security space." Which means in effect you're trying to remove an aspect of the game that has existed since it's creation, as far as I'm aware.

Yeah good luck with that.

Change outta your panties, remove your breast pump (from wherever you have it stuck...) and go out to low-sec/null-sec and shoot sh!t.

"But they might shoot back at wittle me!!"

Yes - they might and probably will...

"But I don't wanna get brone up!"

Then you should visit www.worldofwarcraft.com...

And now you are butthurt. How nice. See if I care...
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#77 - 2012-05-02 17:32:45 UTC
TWHC Assistant wrote:
TrollSuggestion Of The Day:

Delay CONCORD response time by a factor of 3, leaving gankers more time to deal damage, but let CONCORD confiscate/destroy the wreck of the victim as well as that of the ganker's ship. No loot for anyone.

Discuss.


There are a great number of systems where concord doesn't exist, and therefore does not pose a problem. Go on, don't be afraid. No change in game mechanics are required. Oh wait hang on, not sure what your actual argument is: either you and your friends a) cannot do enough dps to kill what you want to kill or b) are afraid of targets that can actually shoot back or fire the first shot. Either way it's you that sucks, not EVE.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2012-05-02 17:36:27 UTC
No, what CCP needs to do is...

... is...

I kind of...

OH **** IT.

WHAT CCP NEEDS TO DO IS MAKE THE GAME ANDREUS IXIRIS ONLINE, OKAY?

AT LEAST I'M HONEST ABOUT IT.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#79 - 2012-05-02 17:40:51 UTC
no, its stupid
TWHC Assistant
#80 - 2012-05-02 17:43:09 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
... Either way it's you that sucks, not EVE.

U sure?