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The Widow.

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Cryissa
Caldari Navy Operations
#1 - 2012-04-30 08:38:41 UTC
I am loving this ship and what it can do. I don't know if it's over powered because the setup I have I know its limits and like most ships it has those limits and strengths.

Anyone else loving this ship as well? What are your setup and experiences?

Ill share mine if you share yours P
Death Toll007
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-04-30 08:43:15 UTC
Park in POS with a bunch of small ships around it... wait for scout to find something... light Cov Cyno, and jump bridge fleet. No real fun other than that.

-DT
Cryissa
Caldari Navy Operations
#3 - 2012-04-30 08:59:05 UTC
Thats a shame you feel like that. I don't blame you for being scared to fly a billion isk ship and fight with it. I was scared the first few times.
fgft Athonille
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-04-30 10:32:06 UTC
Cryissa wrote:
Thats a shame you feel like that. I don't blame you for being scared to fly a billion isk ship and fight with it. I was scared the first few times.


there is no reason for it to jump if you have friends

torp dps. do it with bombers

ecm. do it with falcons
Cryissa
Caldari Navy Operations
#5 - 2012-04-30 10:35:03 UTC
fgft Athonille wrote:
Cryissa wrote:
Thats a shame you feel like that. I don't blame you for being scared to fly a billion isk ship and fight with it. I was scared the first few times.


there is no reason for it to jump if you have friends

torp dps. do it with bombers

ecm. do it with falcons



Sure but for solo it does dps and ecm.

Has anyone not tried and tested it and found it to be as exciting as I found it?
Adeena Torcfist
R3b3llium
Get Off My Lawn
#6 - 2012-04-30 10:40:40 UTC
nope, as even with sensor boosters, takes too long to lock things. So no locking delay is pointless after uncloaking, as you get a delay anyway from the amount of time it takes to grab something.

Only thing its good at is..... Jamming i guess if u manage to lock anything to jam before you die, or, just plain simply, jumping your stealth fleet to somewhere
Cryissa
Caldari Navy Operations
#7 - 2012-04-30 11:09:10 UTC
So it's only me enjoying the ship?

Lucky me Smile
thoth rothschild
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-04-30 11:12:53 UTC
Well,

i do prefer the redeemer. Widow is somewhat mediocre
Cryissa
Caldari Navy Operations
#9 - 2012-04-30 11:15:04 UTC
thoth rothschild wrote:
Well,

i do prefer the redeemer. Widow is somewhat mediocre



I see. Why do you prefer the redeemer may I ask?
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#10 - 2012-05-01 04:44:42 UTC
I tested Widow extensively on SiSi, and found it to be all but unstoppable 1v1 against almost any BS except Mach. It's biggest weakness is getting outrun or drawing heavy drone aggro. In either case, you just warp off and call it good.

With 5 torp launchers and a cloak, it has only 1 high slot left for a large smartbomb. It's enough to kill a flight of Hammerhead IIs just within it's shield buffer, but not Ogres.

The other issue is that having the Improved cloak kinda gimps its locking time. So you need a sebo w/scan res script to compensate.

You also need to be very aware of its capacitor limitations. Like most Caldari ships, it has a crappy cap. With everything running you only get about a minute of cap. w/o the MWD or smartbomb running, its stable at around 50%.

It gets over 1000dps with Rage torps, 3x CN BCS, and a flight of Hammerhead IIs. And for a BS, it's fairly speedy at 133 m/s.

In the right hands, it will crush an incompetent or poorly trained BS pilot. But if you choose poorly, you could be in for a rude awakening.

Personally, I love the velocity boost while cloaked. With Black Ops trained to 4, it's actually faster cloaked than not. This allows for a full speed align while cloaked, followed by an insta-warp upon uncloaking. I wouldn't use it to bust gate-camps, though. Especially when a cheap cyno alt (or not so cheap covert cyno alt) will let you jump past it.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Viribus
Aurora.
The Initiative.
#11 - 2012-05-01 04:57:45 UTC
Are we discussing some sort of bizarro eve where battleship 1v1s still exist?
Cryissa
Caldari Navy Operations
#12 - 2012-05-01 08:16:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Cryissa
Thank you all for your replies. I helps to hear others intakes on the ship that I have kinda fallen in love with. I agree it has it faults but don't most ships? I mean is there really any one ship thats perfect? If there is I am sure someone will let me know Big smile

The Widow has a use for me currently being in a worm hole and entrance defence.

I pushed the skill to level 5 thats how much I love it or in other peoples eyes how stupid I am? I don't know its just what I wanted to do.

Ive called it into play a few times and each time I won quite well.

Moving around quite fast cloaked and then popping up behind someone I can imagine scares the crap out of people. Yes the lock time is long and to those who its long agaisnt they flee. So job done. Ok I don't get the kill but the Wormhole is protected somewhat.

Where those who have stayed and faught they have died without much of a scratch to me. With my jamming skills there really isnt any one ship I cannot jam but I do understand vs a 2nd I have yet to be tested and fear it wouldn't turn out well for me.

With that said it's one of the very few ships I really enjoy flying.

Fly safe

Cryissa
Death Toll007
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-05-01 09:36:58 UTC
Now I see why you like it. I have yet to try her in a wormhole, although i like the idea.
Kaanchana
Tax-haven
#14 - 2012-05-02 05:40:45 UTC
Cryissa wrote:
So it's only me enjoying the ship?

Lucky me Smile


If you don't mind me asking, can you link me to your kb? Or just the Widow kills. I have had one for a looong time and it is gathering dust in my hanger. And i've never seen anyone using a widow solo yet.
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#15 - 2012-05-02 14:05:22 UTC
Viribus wrote:
Are we discussing some sort of bizarro eve where battleship 1v1s still exist?


I wanted to write same .... in my part of lowsec are solo BSs considered baites or dead ... not very big space in between. Twisted
Bibosikus
Air
#16 - 2012-05-02 18:09:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Bibosikus
IMHO the Panther is even more fun.

Triple RF Gyros + Overdrives, 5 x SEBO, 5 x 1400m and a DG Cloak.

520m/sec cloaked, locks your average covops in 2.5 secs, and alpha's with 10k damage (5% & 3% implants) from 40km then instawarps.

If you want a boat that pwns covops, desties and badly-fitted cruisers that have just jumped into your wh, the Panther does it in spades.

Edit: With a set of Snakes, 4 Overdrives and two Nanofibres, you can get nearly 700m/sec cloaked from the Panther - and still have an 8.6k alpha..

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

Wingmate
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-05-02 18:36:01 UTC
so you'd spend well over a bill and a half for a glass cannon that kills destroyers? why not fly a sabre or use an instalock t3? not to mention that all those benefits you ilsted require blackops 5 AND cloaking 5, which are two of the least trained or used skills in the game.

people on this board are way too pro for me.

i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433

Cryissa
Caldari Navy Operations
#18 - 2012-05-03 09:24:34 UTC
Wingmate wrote:
so you'd spend well over a bill and a half for a glass cannon that kills destroyers? why not fly a sabre or use an instalock t3? not to mention that all those benefits you ilsted require blackops 5 AND cloaking 5, which are two of the least trained or used skills in the game.

people on this board are way too pro for me.



sorry is that for me?
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-05-03 09:39:11 UTC
Cryissa wrote:
Wingmate wrote:
so you'd spend well over a bill and a half for a glass cannon that kills destroyers? why not fly a sabre or use an instalock t3? not to mention that all those benefits you ilsted require blackops 5 AND cloaking 5, which are two of the least trained or used skills in the game.

people on this board are way too pro for me.



sorry is that for me?



na he just doesnt have the balls to use one in a fight... i on the other hand am just poor Cry

No Worries

Wingmate
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-05-03 16:29:17 UTC
no i'm talking about Bibosikus and his ridiculously skill-intensive panther.

i love the redeemer, and i fly one. wouldn't lose it. but the perfect world he was blathering on about requires like three months just for the two LV skills he'd need to get the numbers he was talking about.

i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433

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