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Renaming "Carebears" to "Hardbears".
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Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#21 - 2012-04-29 22:12:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
Lexmana wrote:
Nice try but why didn't you chose whinebears instead?



What Lexmana says TBH..

You know you carebears could fight back right? I don't want to hear that you have no PVP experience or no skills as a excuse because as a corp we had our guys train noob alts that was like a 7 day training plan for Catalysts on their open spare slots to gank stuff in high sec.

We came into a situation where our war targets were hiding their booster alts in NPC corps where supposedly we couldn't touch them.. Wrong..

http://www.squidswarm.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=228

That's 1 Legion alt booster & his 500 mil ISK pod dead to a handful of T1 fit destroyers. You carebears whining about just getting your haulers killed by guys in gank ships can do the very same thing. You can train alts for less than 7 days and go gank the hell out of those dirty evil griefers you whine so much about.

It's not like Hulks, Haulers & Tengus are the only viable targets. With enough T1 fit el cheepo destroyers you can pretty much gank just about any ship you want in high sec.

You carebears need to quit whines, grow a pair & and fight back..
Shepard Book
Underground Stargate
#22 - 2012-04-29 22:20:29 UTC
Jacob Staffuer wrote:
Ganking hi-sec players (miners, mission runners, etc) has become a sport, complete with prizes and private, alliance sponsored insurance payouts for ships lost in the process. The fact is if you're in a Hulk or any type of hauler, you are automatically a target and you have almost no way to defend yourself. There are more ships destroyed in hi-sec on any given day than null-sec and low-sec combined.

For this reason, I am moving to rename "carebears" to "hardbears" and renaming "nullbears" to "carebears".


Care to share the numbers that give you this opinion?
The D1ngo
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2012-04-29 22:29:17 UTC
Mutnin wrote:

So I sucker punched this kid in the face when he wasn't expecting it and then I says "Quit whinin' and grow a pair!!!!"

Fixed*


OMG...you are so tough it's...like...scary... It takes balls...BIG BALLS to do what you do...my goodness I am sooooo impressed. What time do you finish at Walmart? Do you think we could hang out?
Tenebrae Syrennis
Abattoir Research and Development
#24 - 2012-04-29 22:42:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Tenebrae Syrennis
Jacob Staffuer wrote:
[...] you have almost no way to defend yourself. [...]


This is not true.

Start evaluating your options and the tools this game gives everyone equally to use to manifest same, and stop being a little puling victim.

Gods, your kind is SO ******* REVOLTING!

Think, and choose, or leave our game.

And that's coming from a carebear-ish pilot (most of this toon's skills are in the research/invention, manufacturing, and Orca skill-trees, btw, and my combat "main + co-main" make their ISK mostly through missions and exploration) who reeeeeeeeaaaally has not one shred of respect for goons or anything they actually represent.

HTFU or GTFO!

I have come to eat all your brains.
TWHC Assistant
#25 - 2012-04-29 22:44:25 UTC
Why is this thread not locked yet? Does it have a chance of actually going somewhere??
Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-04-29 22:49:09 UTC
Why would this thread be any different to the others on these forums?
Zubrette
R3d Fire
#27 - 2012-04-29 23:04:03 UTC
I would say owning a tec moon makes you a carebear, as it has destroyed most of the successful alliances.

Don't get obese off moon goo, it's a sometimes food...
Flakey Foont
#28 - 2012-04-29 23:48:36 UTC
I call them "elves."
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#29 - 2012-04-29 23:51:51 UTC
Better yet, hisec people should be called "don't care bears".

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Testerxnot Sheepherder
Get Isk or Die Mining
#30 - 2012-04-30 00:15:08 UTC
"Vocal minority", or what was it you nullbears said?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#31 - 2012-04-30 00:48:49 UTC
Tenebrae Syrennis wrote:
Jacob Staffuer wrote:
[...] you have almost no way to defend yourself. [...]


This is not true.

Start evaluating your options and the tools this game gives everyone equally to use to manifest same, and stop being a little puling victim.

Gods, your kind is SO ******* REVOLTING!

Think, and choose, or leave our game.

And that's coming from a carebear-ish pilot (most of this toon's skills are in the research/invention, manufacturing, and Orca skill-trees, btw, and my combat "main + co-main" make their ISK mostly through missions and exploration) who reeeeeeeeaaaally has not one shred of respect for goons or anything they actually represent.

HTFU or GTFO!

So uh, are you a goon alt? Just have to address that first.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Tenebrae Syrennis
Abattoir Research and Development
#32 - 2012-04-30 00:51:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Tenebrae Syrennis
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Tenebrae Syrennis wrote:
Jacob Staffuer wrote:
[...] you have almost no way to defend yourself. [...]


This is not true.

Start evaluating your options and the tools this game gives everyone equally to use to manifest same, and stop being a little puling victim.

Gods, your kind is SO ******* REVOLTING!

Think, and choose, or leave our game.

And that's coming from a carebear-ish pilot (most of this toon's skills are in the research/invention, manufacturing, and Orca skill-trees, btw, and my combat "main + co-main" make their ISK mostly through missions and exploration) who reeeeeeeeaaaally has not one shred of respect for goons or anything they actually represent.

HTFU or GTFO!

So uh, are you a goon alt? Just have to address that first.


Not even close, lemming.

Not even freaking close.

E:

Not like the actual answer matters: This is EVE, we're all Chribba's alts.

I have come to eat all your brains.
Jacob Staffuer
Doomheim
#33 - 2012-04-30 00:55:50 UTC
Blobber NL wrote:
Lexmana wrote:
Nice try but why didn't you chose whinebears instead?



For null/lowsec? For so far i can read on this forum the most whine comes from null/lowsec players.


It's true. Look at all the whiny nullsec carebears in this thread.

"Oh look at me, I'm in GoonSwarm, we're so hardcore cuz our alliance gives us free ships and we shitpost. Deerrrrr."
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#34 - 2012-04-30 00:56:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Simi Kusoni
Tenebrae Syrennis wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
So uh, are you a goon alt? Just have to address that first.


Not even close, lemming.

Not even freaking close.

Bullseye.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Jacob Staffuer
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-04-30 00:56:48 UTC
Tenebrae Syrennis wrote:
Jacob Staffuer wrote:
[...] you have almost no way to defend yourself. [...]


This is not true.

Start evaluating your options and the tools this game gives everyone equally to use to manifest same, and stop being a little puling victim.

Gods, your kind is SO ******* REVOLTING!

Think, and choose, or leave our game.

And that's coming from a carebear-ish pilot (most of this toon's skills are in the research/invention, manufacturing, and Orca skill-trees, btw, and my combat "main + co-main" make their ISK mostly through missions and exploration) who reeeeeeeeaaaally has not one shred of respect for goons or anything they actually represent.

HTFU or GTFO!


This is an example of someone who takes video games too seriously.
Jacob Staffuer
Doomheim
#36 - 2012-04-30 00:59:29 UTC
How does a single hardbear defend himself from a random NPC-corp Cataganker warping into his belt and alpha striking him?

He really can't. All he can do is just be hard and suck it up.

That's why we're called hardbears.
Old Chen
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-04-30 01:00:29 UTC
Posting as a means of giving myself a big hug and telling myself it'll be alright.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#38 - 2012-04-30 01:00:41 UTC
Jacob Staffuer wrote:
It's true. Look at all the whiny nullsec carebears in this thread.

"Oh look at me, I'm in GoonSwarm, we're so hardcore cuz our alliance gives us free ships and we shitpost. Deerrrrr."

Well, no, we're hard core because we play the game in an environment that allows others to open fire on us without them instantly losing their ships.

You are not hard core, because you hide in high sec and pretend it's CCP's fault because low sec is an impenetrable wall of death and they haven't done enough to nerf PvP so you can get through.

Jacob Staffuer wrote:
How does a single hardbear defend himself from a random NPC-corp Cataganker warping into his belt and alpha striking him?

He really can't. All he can do is just be hard and suck it up..

He fits a tank... Or warps off.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Jacob Staffuer
Doomheim
#39 - 2012-04-30 01:00:52 UTC
Garnoo wrote:
why would they be a "hardbears"? all they do is dying..... its not so hard :)


Posting this because it nicely illustrates why you have to have the patience of a tree and the brass balls of a lion to be a hardbear in hi-sec.
Jacob Staffuer
Doomheim
#40 - 2012-04-30 01:06:35 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Jacob Staffuer wrote:
It's true. Look at all the whiny nullsec carebears in this thread.

"Oh look at me, I'm in GoonSwarm, we're so hardcore cuz our alliance gives us free ships and we shitpost. Deerrrrr."

Well, no, we're hard core because we play the game in an environment that allows others to open fire on us without them instantly losing their ships.

You are not hard core, because you hide in high sec and pretend it's CCP's fault because low sec is an impenetrable wall of death and they haven't done enough to nerf PvP so you can get through.

Jacob Staffuer wrote:
How does a single hardbear defend himself from a random NPC-corp Cataganker warping into his belt and alpha striking him?

He really can't. All he can do is just be hard and suck it up..

He fits a tank.


1) Blob warfare does not make you "hardcore", especially when your ships are free.

2) Suicide ganking makes you a pansy because your target cannot pre-emptively strike you sans a billion ISK wardec.

3) Tanking a Hulk just means you lose that much more ISK when you get ganked. I know this, because Goonswarm, in an effort to enhance epeen and be "contrary on the forums", likes to post killmails featuring tanked Hulks every time some miner says "my tank is ungankable".

So again: Hardbears have no way to defend themselves, but they go out everyday and run their missions and mine in their Hulks. And no one is paying for their ships except themselves. That's hard. Hence, hardbears.

Kthx.